Need help identifying 675 Freight set...

[BlackJack]

I would appreciate some help identifying my dad's freight set number (and msrp price) from his childhood.  The locomotive is a 675 with a PRR 5690 decal, 2-4-2 with black smoke stack and a 6466wx lionel lines tender. I think that makes it 1948-49 production locomotive. It had a 3472 milk car, 3469 black dump car, 3656 orange cattle car, 6465 silver 2 dome sunoco tank car and a 6457 burgandy Lionel lines caboose.  Various instruction and lionel literature with it are dated between 1948-1953. 

I don't know if he got this as a set or not, but since sets were priced cheaper, I'd guess so. I don't know if he added to it over the years or not-He also had a 394 red beacon tower, a no 30 water tower, a RW transformer, 2 right handed 042 manual turnouts,  a ?Marx Wabash labeled metal bridge and a 145 autogateman. Pretty lucky kid I guess-my mom growing up on a rural farm didn't even have electricity in her young childhood...

[Chris F]

I think your dad's freight set was outfit 2147WS Four-Car Freight from 1949.  It consisted of the following rolling stock:

675 2-6-2 Steamer

6466WX Tender

3472 Operating milk car and platform

6465 Sunoco oil car

3469 Operating ore dump car

6457 Lionel caboose

The 3656 was first offered in 1949, but was not part of the 2147WS set.

[BlackJack]

Thanks. I think that is it. I've wondered about it for a long time.

[phillyreading]

According to Greenberg's guide the 675 (2-6-2)was made between 47 & 49, (2-6-4) in 52, the 3472 was made between 49 & 53, the 3469 was made between 49 & 55, the 3656 is an Armour operating cattle car made between 49 & 55 and has five variations of it, the 6465 was made between 48 & 56, the 6457 was made between 49 & 52. The set was probaly purchased in 49 or 50, don't know if the RW came in a set or not as I think that is a two train transformer, the numbers on the watertower and beacon tower and transformer put them in the same time frame as the set.  In the instruction book does it tell you about Majic Electrol control?

I have a prewar frieght train a # 249E locomotive & 2225T tender with three frieght cars, 2653 hopper, 2657 caboose, 3659 operating dump car, the frieght set has 1938 operating uncouplers.  Also a 224E locomtive with two 2640 passenger cars & a 2641 observation car, the passenger set has 1940 to 42 operating uncouplers.

Lee F.

[BlackJack]

I appreciate the input. It was an O gauge set, so I believe the transformer was sold seperate, as well as the track. I don't know if he got everything at once, or if some items, like the cattle car were added later. It seems like a 1949 set. Some of the various papers were as above from about 48-53, so I would assume a few bits were added later. I'll have to see what the 50s paper work was for, and I'll investigate the cattle car some more to figure it's date.  I am kind of suprised he had two turnouts that were the same direction, instead of a pair...maybe a purchasing mistake. I don't know what year he received it as a gift.

[phillyreading]

Your set should have come with some O gauge track, eight curves & four straights, but usually no switches, and a single train transformer with power clip for the track, don't know if track clips came with the set or not. To know for sure what came with the set a 1949 catalog should help.

Lee.