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Problem with this site?
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 6, 2003 10:17 AM
OK, I don't like to gripe, but there's a problem with this site.

I have the "Remember me" option checked off. Yet, every time I restart my machine & come here, I have to enter my user name & password.

Is it my machine or is there a problem with the site?

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Problem with this site?
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 6, 2003 10:17 AM
OK, I don't like to gripe, but there's a problem with this site.

I have the "Remember me" option checked off. Yet, every time I restart my machine & come here, I have to enter my user name & password.

Is it my machine or is there a problem with the site?

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Posted by Roger Bielen on Saturday, September 6, 2003 7:01 PM
I've had this problem elsewhere. What I found is not to logoff/logout but to just close, X out. It works for me..
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Posted by Roger Bielen on Saturday, September 6, 2003 7:01 PM
I've had this problem elsewhere. What I found is not to logoff/logout but to just close, X out. It works for me..
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 6, 2003 8:36 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vitabile

OK, I don't like to gripe, but there's a problem with this site.

I have the "Remember me" option checked off. Yet, every time I restart my machine & come here, I have to enter my user name & password.

Is it my machine or is there a problem with the site?

Tony


Hi Tony, My problem with this site, in every forum, is that it is so very slow. The last week or so it has been super, super, super s l o w . [|)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 6, 2003 8:36 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vitabile

OK, I don't like to gripe, but there's a problem with this site.

I have the "Remember me" option checked off. Yet, every time I restart my machine & come here, I have to enter my user name & password.

Is it my machine or is there a problem with the site?

Tony


Hi Tony, My problem with this site, in every forum, is that it is so very slow. The last week or so it has been super, super, super s l o w . [|)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 6, 2003 10:15 PM
Jim:

I don't have any complaints about the performance of this site. It goes fast enough for me. Of course, I'm connected to the Internet through a cable modem....

The problem with the site can't be my machine, because the site behaves the same way when I log in from work.

I just restarted my machine after visiting relatives in Jersey, and, this time, the site remembered me. This one's got me stumped.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 6, 2003 10:15 PM
Jim:

I don't have any complaints about the performance of this site. It goes fast enough for me. Of course, I'm connected to the Internet through a cable modem....

The problem with the site can't be my machine, because the site behaves the same way when I log in from work.

I just restarted my machine after visiting relatives in Jersey, and, this time, the site remembered me. This one's got me stumped.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vitabile
The problem with the site can't be my machine, because the site behaves the same way when I log in from work.

I just restarted my machine after visiting relatives in Jersey, and, this time, the site remembered me. This one's got me stumped.


Oh, I know you're not going to like the answer, but here it is.

The security / authentication process (where you login and the site remembers you) was developed so that the persistant login (this is where a cookie is placed and how the site remembers you) is tied to a single computer. When you login to the site on a different computer than the last one, a new code is issued which invalidates the last computer's cookies.

Simply put...

You login at home. Then you login at work. Your login at home is in effect logged out. The computer at your work is now "in control". When you return home and login, your home computer will be "in control" and your computer at work is in effect logged out and will require you to log back in.

Why did we make it so difficult? Well I admit it appears to most as an inconvenience and a hassle, but the truth is this was done to increase the level of security on the site. Granted we're not dealing with online banking, but nobody would like it if they're account (or an admin's account) was taken over by mischevious persons and used to post or contact other member's in a way that's unbecoming of theirself.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vitabile
The problem with the site can't be my machine, because the site behaves the same way when I log in from work.

I just restarted my machine after visiting relatives in Jersey, and, this time, the site remembered me. This one's got me stumped.


Oh, I know you're not going to like the answer, but here it is.

The security / authentication process (where you login and the site remembers you) was developed so that the persistant login (this is where a cookie is placed and how the site remembers you) is tied to a single computer. When you login to the site on a different computer than the last one, a new code is issued which invalidates the last computer's cookies.

Simply put...

You login at home. Then you login at work. Your login at home is in effect logged out. The computer at your work is now "in control". When you return home and login, your home computer will be "in control" and your computer at work is in effect logged out and will require you to log back in.

Why did we make it so difficult? Well I admit it appears to most as an inconvenience and a hassle, but the truth is this was done to increase the level of security on the site. Granted we're not dealing with online banking, but nobody would like it if they're account (or an admin's account) was taken over by mischevious persons and used to post or contact other member's in a way that's unbecoming of theirself.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:38 PM
David:

Actually, I figured out this week that the "problem" seemed to revolve around the act of logging in at home vs logging in at work. I noticed over the weekend that my home system remembered me even though I had shut it down in between sessions.

As a web developer myself, I understand what it is that you're trying to do.

No problems

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:38 PM
David:

Actually, I figured out this week that the "problem" seemed to revolve around the act of logging in at home vs logging in at work. I noticed over the weekend that my home system remembered me even though I had shut it down in between sessions.

As a web developer myself, I understand what it is that you're trying to do.

No problems

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 9:10 PM
I don't log off,I just goo away, "but" every time that trains.com, does a update, a person has to log back in, I had to just now reregistor,in order, to get back into this fourm, it would not take my other "USERNAME OR PASSWORD",trains.com, neeeds to look into, this very HARD, it is not a pe3rson own computer, it the way "Trains.com" has screwed thing up............................HUB
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 9:10 PM
I don't log off,I just goo away, "but" every time that trains.com, does a update, a person has to log back in, I had to just now reregistor,in order, to get back into this fourm, it would not take my other "USERNAME OR PASSWORD",trains.com, neeeds to look into, this very HARD, it is not a pe3rson own computer, it the way "Trains.com" has screwed thing up............................HUB
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 9:56 PM
Hello HUB,

If you are having problems with logging on to Trains.com, let us know. You can contact either Erik (aka Bergie), Customer Service, myself or send a message to webmaster@trains.com or webmaster@kalmbach.com and we'll look into it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 9:56 PM
Hello HUB,

If you are having problems with logging on to Trains.com, let us know. You can contact either Erik (aka Bergie), Customer Service, myself or send a message to webmaster@trains.com or webmaster@kalmbach.com and we'll look into it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:03 PM
I cannot get on the main page rrralph@hvi.net
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:03 PM
I cannot get on the main page rrralph@hvi.net
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:15 PM
The REAL problem is all the stinking web sites want "cookies"--I connsider that
a real invasion of privacy and should be against the law more so than recording songs or most anything else!! They have no buisness whatsover sticking there
nose into what web sites you visit! Thats your own personal buisness. Just another tatic to "liberalize" your buisness! I'm suprised they don't tax all of us more just for connections--The worst I get is "connection-refused" from this site.


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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:15 PM
The REAL problem is all the stinking web sites want "cookies"--I connsider that
a real invasion of privacy and should be against the law more so than recording songs or most anything else!! They have no buisness whatsover sticking there
nose into what web sites you visit! Thats your own personal buisness. Just another tatic to "liberalize" your buisness! I'm suprised they don't tax all of us more just for connections--The worst I get is "connection-refused" from this site.


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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:49 AM
QUOTE: You login at home. Then you login at work. Your login at home is in effect logged out. The computer at your work is now "in control". When you return home and login, your home computer will be "in control" and your computer at work is in effect logged out and will require you to log back in


The above is true for ANY site you are a registered member of that requires a sign-in, including external hotmail, yahoo accounts, etc.

In addition to my PC, I also use MSN-TV (Webtv).
Any place that requires a sign-in will make you RE-sign in after you accessed it last from another machine. Thats just the way that cookies work.
Even though your machine still has a cookie from trains.com, it will be voided out if you used another machine to sign into the site, last time you were there.

This forum - like all forums, takes far to long to load on webtv, so I exculsively use the PC to post to forums with, thus eliminating the voided out cookie problem.

I dipise cookies, pop-ups, & Temp Internet Files PERIOD, and either delete or block almost all cookies daily. I only keep cookies for sites that require logging in to.
Even Trains.com, comes with outsider's pop-ups & cookies generated from the ads & banners here, which I keeped blocked out.
Where I surf is my own business.....


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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:49 AM
QUOTE: You login at home. Then you login at work. Your login at home is in effect logged out. The computer at your work is now "in control". When you return home and login, your home computer will be "in control" and your computer at work is in effect logged out and will require you to log back in


The above is true for ANY site you are a registered member of that requires a sign-in, including external hotmail, yahoo accounts, etc.

In addition to my PC, I also use MSN-TV (Webtv).
Any place that requires a sign-in will make you RE-sign in after you accessed it last from another machine. Thats just the way that cookies work.
Even though your machine still has a cookie from trains.com, it will be voided out if you used another machine to sign into the site, last time you were there.

This forum - like all forums, takes far to long to load on webtv, so I exculsively use the PC to post to forums with, thus eliminating the voided out cookie problem.

I dipise cookies, pop-ups, & Temp Internet Files PERIOD, and either delete or block almost all cookies daily. I only keep cookies for sites that require logging in to.
Even Trains.com, comes with outsider's pop-ups & cookies generated from the ads & banners here, which I keeped blocked out.
Where I surf is my own business.....


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Posted by tschmidt on Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:07 PM
I guess things are different for me. I can go to the site at home and work and never have to log in. Maybe it's because I use a Mac, I don't know. Both machines just remember who I am each time.

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Posted by tschmidt on Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:07 PM
I guess things are different for me. I can go to the site at home and work and never have to log in. Maybe it's because I use a Mac, I don't know. Both machines just remember who I am each time.

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Posted by lionelsoni on Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:03 PM
I do not (usually) have to log in at home or work.

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Posted by lionelsoni on Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:03 PM
I do not (usually) have to log in at home or work.

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Posted by Dave Farquhar on Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:01 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by expogs6

The REAL problem is all the stinking web sites want "cookies"--I connsider that


exposg6, not all cookies are bad--using them to remember your login, the way this site does, is what they're intended to do.

Saying cookies are bad is like saying chocolate cake is bad. Yes, if you eat a whole chocolate cake every day it'll probably kill you. But that doesn't mean someone should make it illegal.

If the site won't remember you, and you're not logging in from multiple computers, it's probably because cookies are disabled.
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Posted by Dave Farquhar on Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:01 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by expogs6

The REAL problem is all the stinking web sites want "cookies"--I connsider that


exposg6, not all cookies are bad--using them to remember your login, the way this site does, is what they're intended to do.

Saying cookies are bad is like saying chocolate cake is bad. Yes, if you eat a whole chocolate cake every day it'll probably kill you. But that doesn't mean someone should make it illegal.

If the site won't remember you, and you're not logging in from multiple computers, it's probably because cookies are disabled.
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Posted by selector on Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:10 PM
I invite you to respond to my thread titled "Did you experience withdrawal when..." over in Model Railroader's Gen Discussion page. Some comments are kinda fun.
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Posted by selector on Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:10 PM
I invite you to respond to my thread titled "Did you experience withdrawal when..." over in Model Railroader's Gen Discussion page. Some comments are kinda fun.

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