Lionel clock

[johnandjulie13]

Hello Bob:

Once again, you are a wealth of information. I would like you to clarify one thing for me. In your first paragraph you say:

QUOTE: Sorry, but Lionel's nominal O scale, and American O scale generally, is 1/48. The toy-train track gauge is Maerklin's number zero ("O"), 1 1/4 inches, which is too wide. American scale modelers fix this by using a narrower gauge.

Are you saying that scale modelers use a track narrower than 1.25"? Correct scale appears to be 1.17". Does that mean all of their engines and rolling stock are scratch built? Or, can they take a Lionel "scale" engine and replace the trucks to fit the narrower track?

Thanks again for the information.

Regards,

John O

[lionelsoni]

That's 5.16 millimeters, which might be Z, allowing for the difficulty of measuring it. In any case, it's close enough that it could probably be replaced by actual Z track.

[hugoroundhouse]

Of course I meant to say that the little train is SMALLER than N ! (duh!) I'm familiar with the size of "N" but not "Z". The best measurements I can get on the little circle of plastic track on the clock is 17/64" outside-of-rail to outside-of-rail, 15/64" center-to-center, and 13/64" inside -to-inside.

Jim E.[:)]

[lionelsoni]

Sorry, but Lionel's nominal O scale, and American O scale generally, is 1/48. The toy-train track gauge is Maerklin's number zero ("O"), 1 1/4 inches, which is too wide. American scale modelers fix this by using a narrower gauge.

On the European continent, they use an O scale of 1/45, which corresponds to the Maerklin O gauge of 32 millimeters (virtually the same as 1 1/4 inches). Thus ETS trains can run on Lionel track, even though they are built to a slightly larger scale. The British like an O gauge of 33 millimeters and a scale of 1/43.5, which they prefer to think of as 7 millimeters per foot. This is the O that HO is half of.

So HO is 1/87 and 16.5 millimeters. The British, ever eccentric, however prefer what they call OO, which uses a scale of 1/76 on HO-gauge track. American OO, once built by Lionel, uses the correct 3/4-inch-gauge track. American Flyer's S scale was 1/64, which ran on 1 1/4-inch three-rail track before the war and the correct 7/8-inch two-rail after.

"Standard" gauge was the result of Joshua Lionel Cowen's misunderstanding of Maerklin's number-two gauge, which he thought was 2 1/8 inches but which actually was 2 inches. Other American manufacturers were forced to call it "wide gauge". G gauge is Maerklin's number one, at 45 millimeters; but the scale is all over the place as a result of its being originally used to model narrow-gauge trains in its modern revival.

TT, at 1/120 and 12 millimeters is almost extinct.

[phillyreading]

Lionel has produced stuff in mainly 1/43 scale-O gauge, and 1/48 scale-027, some other stuff is a good guess at the scale.
Lee

[BigJim]

If they would have put a train on there that looked like anything Lionel produced (Blue Comet - GG1 - J - FM), I may have bought one.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the gauge info Bob, while you're at it, could you give me the numbers for the rest of the gauges? I have been looking in toy departments for layout accesories and they are identified like !/43 etc. and I haven't found anywhere that tells what each of the model RR gauges are. ?/
Thnaks, Abuelo

[lionelsoni]

If it's larger than N, it's larger than Z. Did you mean it the other way around, Jim? (N is 1/160, 9 mm gauge; Z is 1/220, 6.5 mm gauge.)

[hugoroundhouse]

Morning all-

We finally did just turn off the alarm - a little goes a long way when it comes to surprise wake-up calls!!

I found a few papers that came with our clock - a genuine Certificate of Authenticity (wow ) and the Operating Instructions. Nowhere did I find a list of replacement parts to order from. There is a Customer Service number you might try: 1-800-423-4248

The train is definitely larger than N gauge, but I'm not sure about "Z" - it might be close.

Jim E.

[phillyreading]

Jim,
I have not had the alarm clock problem with my clock but I have not used the alarm feature, so I don't know about any possible problem, just turn off the alarm feature.
Also has a place for an A.C. adapter, which I don't have because my clock was a gift.
Lee

[markn]

Abuelo-try this link http://www.asseenontvdiscounts.com/lionel_train_alarm_clock.asp

[Anonymous]

Response to Sanman0516...I went on the web site for Trainworld and got totally lost!! I did put in a query about the Lionel clock, and everything that came up had nothing to do with it at all. Hmmm. Can you give me some more feedback on exactly how to find this? I have the same trouble with e-bay. Must be getting old, I can't navigate thru some of this stuff. Anyway, thanks.
Abuelo.....F.de F.A, Cia, Ltda.

[sanman0516]

Yes it is. Here is the web site
www.trainworld.com
good luck and be well

[Anonymous]

Thanks guys...that's it! I like the possible adventure we're looking forward to if the clock does go off when it feels like it! Sanman, is trainworld a website? I'll have to check that out.
Thanks again...is it possible to put a N or Z scale loco on that track?
Abuelo...........Fabrica de Ferrocarriles Abuelos,Cia. Ltda.

[BR60103]

I don't think the train is available without the clock.

[sanman0516]

Try trainworld they would have it new. I was their a month ago and they had a lot of these.

[sanman0516]

Abuelo weclom to the form[#welcome]



Is this what you wre looking for !!!!! [:)]

[hugoroundhouse]

First, make sure the train is not inside the tunnel somwhere! It runs loose on the track via a magnetic drive, similar to a skater on a music so it very well could have been lost.

I got my son one of those about 7? years ago and we had quite a time with it. The alarm is a "All Aboard" with a chuffing sound. Problem is, the alwam would go off in the middle of the night, regardless of when we would set it. Nothing like hearing somwone yell"All Aboard!" about 2:00 a.m.! Or maybe 4:00 a.m., or maybe 12:00 noon....! Anyway we've had a lot of laughs about our little train that runs when IT wants to!

I'll see if I can find the paperwork that came with it andsee if it lists a source for replacement parts.

JIm E.

[Anonymous]

I have received from a friend, a little unit that has a clock in the top of a mountain with a circular track going into a tunnel (round). There is a button to push which I assume would activate a tiny train of some sort to go around for a period of time. Alas, no little train.
Is anyone familiar with this, and/or have knowledge of how I can find such? I would like to give this to my grandson who alreay is a train nut (no fault of grandpa's of course). Any help?
Abuelo.