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Now the hard work REALLY starts!

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Now the hard work REALLY starts!
Posted by thor on Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:22 AM
I spent all day yesterday working on the loco you saw in my earlier post. Its an old 1130. I've finally got the basic outline to my satisfaction and now the hard work really starts!

I sprayed it with a reveal coat to show up all the scarring and mistakes so expect it to look really horrible, I use gloss black because that is guaranteed to make a body job reveal its true horror.

I'm unable to find the product I need to finish it, I used to be able to buy it in hobby shops and autoparts stores but I drew a blank after trying three outlets.
I dont remember the name of the stuff but its basically filler in a spray can. Used to fill scratches in car paint jobs, its a very fine grained bondo like product, dries very quickly and you then sand off the high spots.

So dont judge me too harshly by the photo! I got the cab shape and the side frames right - bearing in mind the mechanism I had to make a few compromises. I'm very pleased with it but theres a lot more left to do.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 30, 2006 9:26 AM
Wow! I never would have guessed that that was once an 1130. You've done a great job of giving it a British look. Excellent work! I can't wait to see the finished product. Are you going to make some British rolling stock to go with it?
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Posted by thor on Sunday, April 30, 2006 10:05 AM
Yes. I want to make some wooden clerestory coaches with working doors and door windows so Asherah can put people in them, very important! Also some short wheelbase 4 wheel open 'private owner' wagons.

Thanks for the kind remarks. It was only an eyeball job, I made it up as I went along because by the time I'd removed all the unwanted/damaged portions the remaining shell was so non-symetrical there was hardly anything left to get reliable measurements off .

Also that Lionel mechanism is pretty tall and wide, allowing for the con rod slop and bogie swing on tight curves, I had to make it wider than I would have liked. Another thing is the drivers are undersized, so I tried to hide it by that curtain of framing and accentuated the wheel arches to make it less obvious it had been fiddled!

Last but not least, the reason for all the mess is that the only glue that would work was fast setting epoxy which is the consistency of grease and goes off in 4 minutes! So I had to smear it in quick and then grind off the excess as epoxy works best when used generously.

The coaches and wagons will be scratchbuilt from a blank page so I can use plastic card and MEK and wont have the cleaning up job that the loco requires! But it'll look good when I'm done, it will just take quite a while...
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Posted by wrmcclellan on Sunday, April 30, 2006 12:26 PM
thor,

This is cool! I like the UK locos. If I were not so heavy into US protoypes, I would like to invest in a couple of the ACE and Hornby O gauge.

I used to use a body fine filler product called FeatherFill on fiberglass, but it did not come in a spray can.

Looking forward to the finished product.

Roy

Regards, Roy

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Posted by jpelosi2002 on Sunday, April 30, 2006 9:11 PM
Try "Mr. Surfacer" by Gunze Sanyo. For the rough stuff use the 500, for the fine stuff 1000. I use it on my scale models and it's wonderful stuff. You should be able to find it on the internet with no problems or really good hobby shops.
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Posted by darianj on Monday, May 1, 2006 4:41 AM
Look forward to seeing the finised product.
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Posted by thor on Monday, May 1, 2006 4:42 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wrmcclellan

thor,

This is cool! I like the UK locos. If I were not so heavy into US protoypes, I would like to invest in a couple of the ACE and Hornby O gauge.

I used to use a body fine filler product called FeatherFill on fiberglass, but it did not come in a spray can.

Looking forward to the finished product.

Roy



Thanks Roy and thanks for the info - I'll be looking out for the stuff today. Anxious to get it looking better. Its only a TOY Train that is - in the style of, of course, I dont want to claim otherwise. Next one I build I think I'll go a different route and try scratchbuilding but its kinda nice to think theres a loyal old 1130 being given a new lease of life! My ten dollar train!
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Posted by thor on Monday, May 1, 2006 4:43 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jpelosi2002

Try "Mr. Surfacer" by Gunze Sanyo. For the rough stuff use the 500, for the fine stuff 1000. I use it on my scale models and it's wonderful stuff. You should be able to find it on the internet with no problems or really good hobby shops.
Jim



great info Jim and thanks for the help!

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