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783 8406 runs slow
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 1, 2003 3:41 PM
My new 783 8406 runs slow! Is this common for this engine? I have oiled and greased it. How can I improve its speed?
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783 8406 runs slow
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 1, 2003 3:41 PM
My new 783 8406 runs slow! Is this common for this engine? I have oiled and greased it. How can I improve its speed?
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Posted by lionelsoni on Friday, August 1, 2003 4:24 PM
That's the way they are geared. If you want more speed than that, you will have to use more voltage, although I wouldn't recommend much of an increase. An old type Z transformer puts out 24 volts.

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Posted by lionelsoni on Friday, August 1, 2003 4:24 PM
That's the way they are geared. If you want more speed than that, you will have to use more voltage, although I wouldn't recommend much of an increase. An old type Z transformer puts out 24 volts.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 2, 2003 3:21 PM
Hello Bob,

Thanks for the information. It is interesting. My 2056 Small Hudson with 2046 Magnetration is a great puller with high speed.

Frederick H. Duncan

QUOTE: Originally posted by lionelsoni

That's the way they are geared. If you want more speed than that, you will have to use more voltage, although I wouldn't recommend much of an increase. An old type Z transformer puts out 24 volts.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 2, 2003 3:21 PM
Hello Bob,

Thanks for the information. It is interesting. My 2056 Small Hudson with 2046 Magnetration is a great puller with high speed.

Frederick H. Duncan

QUOTE: Originally posted by lionelsoni

That's the way they are geared. If you want more speed than that, you will have to use more voltage, although I wouldn't recommend much of an increase. An old type Z transformer puts out 24 volts.

Bob Nelson
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Posted by tmackinator on Thursday, August 7, 2003 9:58 PM
I recently purchased a 783 and also found it to be slow. I my case the one driver was slightly rubbing on the frame casting. check for binding in the drivers The engine also ran better after breaking in for a while-tm
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Posted by tmackinator on Thursday, August 7, 2003 9:58 PM
I recently purchased a 783 and also found it to be slow. I my case the one driver was slightly rubbing on the frame casting. check for binding in the drivers The engine also ran better after breaking in for a while-tm
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Posted by ADCX Rob on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 8:35 PM
Be sure to oil & grease it well - It's 20+ years old. It takes quite a while to get this broken in nicely, and the gearing is somewhat slower than most. Try it on a type V or Type Z and you will get a feel of how that big motor can really pull!

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 8:35 PM
Be sure to oil & grease it well - It's 20+ years old. It takes quite a while to get this broken in nicely, and the gearing is somewhat slower than most. Try it on a type V or Type Z and you will get a feel of how that big motor can really pull!

Rob

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Posted by iguanaman3 on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 9:48 PM
All the big Hudsons are geared slower and have been since the beginning. I have a 785 grey Hudson which has the large field "Super" motor and I still can run it flat out (pulling a load) with my old ZW without falling off the tracks. I've been running it for 15 years and it really has broken in smooth. I can turn the wheels by hand now. Make sure you keep the siderods well oiled too, remember they are what turn 4 of the wheels.

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Posted by iguanaman3 on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 9:48 PM
All the big Hudsons are geared slower and have been since the beginning. I have a 785 grey Hudson which has the large field "Super" motor and I still can run it flat out (pulling a load) with my old ZW without falling off the tracks. I've been running it for 15 years and it really has broken in smooth. I can turn the wheels by hand now. Make sure you keep the siderods well oiled too, remember they are what turn 4 of the wheels.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 9:52 PM
LIRR,

Make sure that the side rods are well oiled at the pivot points and put a drop or two on the armature shaft. The big Hudsons are geared to run at scale speeds, so they won't run as fast as the 2046 or 2056. But they will out-pull them by quite a bit. It will easily haul more cars than any of the other postwar type steamers without any ill effects.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 9:52 PM
LIRR,

Make sure that the side rods are well oiled at the pivot points and put a drop or two on the armature shaft. The big Hudsons are geared to run at scale speeds, so they won't run as fast as the 2046 or 2056. But they will out-pull them by quite a bit. It will easily haul more cars than any of the other postwar type steamers without any ill effects.

Jim
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Posted by 02camaro on Thursday, February 9, 2006 7:46 PM
I'm still saving up for a 783, so it's interesting to hear about them. If you have a copy of the May 2000 issue of CTT, it has an article about tuning and cleaning up the 783.
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Posted by 02camaro on Thursday, February 9, 2006 7:46 PM
I'm still saving up for a 783, so it's interesting to hear about them. If you have a copy of the May 2000 issue of CTT, it has an article about tuning and cleaning up the 783.

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