Way cool tinplate set on "the bay"

[phillyreading]

Final bid was $1580.00. Nice train but like others have said "burns a hole in my wallet!"
Lee F.

[prewardude]

Imagine what that sucker would have fetched if it still had the original box! [:0]

[laz 57]

WAY COOL nice find PAUL.
Keep us posted on those finds.
laz57

[csxt30]

QUOTE: Originally posted by pbjwilson

It sold. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6037701118&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Double [#ditto] !! [:D][:D]

[pbjwilson]

It sold. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6037701118&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

[Anonymous]

As mersenne6 says, it's the fact that this tender is lettered "Chicago Flyer" that makes it special. It is far more difficult to find than the others, which are usually lettered "L.V.E. No. 25".

I, too, hate it when people list engines and tenders seperately or break sets up on ebay. I'd much rather by a lot of mismatched trains from different sets than see an original set be broken up. I once won a Mettoy tinplate steam engine on ebay for a very good price. There was no tender with it. However, later on the same seller had the tender and other cars from the set up on ebay, each listed seperately. The tender actually went higher than the engine did. I believe this was because it was lettered "Mettoy Railways" and so had the word "Mettoy" in the description, enabling people searching for it to find it. Mind you, I bought the engine on the assumption that there was no tender for it to begin with. I also later on found a matching tender on ebay, so it all turned out in the end.

A friend of mine once bid on an A-B-A set of Lionel F3's. The two A units were in one lot and the B unit in another. As luck would have it, he only ended up with the B unit.

Then, there are the people who have a group of different trains and decide to split them up into "sets" of their own choosing, which of course sees items from one set being sold in different lots. This is just as bad as selling off each piece individually. Some people probably do things like this to get a better price, but I believe that in the majority of cases, it's simply out of sheer ignorance.

[mersenne6]

According to Louis Hertz the Chicago Flyer tenders were made in 1908 after Ives lost the Montgomery Ward account to American Flyer. Interestingly enough only one of my Ives references has a picture of a Chicago Flyer Tender and it is the smaller 4 wheel one - none of them list an 8 wheel tender. Speaking by contrast - the engine is commonplace (although it too is very difficult to find).

[csxt30]

Yes, just what I was getting at. The High dollar collectors are probably really upset ! If the tender sells 1st, then that guy has to really bid out of this world to get the engine. The seller probably knows that, too, & that's why they do that.
I'm on to them !! [:D][:D]
Yes, can't wait to see what Sask says, also !! [:D]

[pbjwilson]

John'
There ought to be a rule - Engines and tenders must be sold together. Or should I say engine and coal car, or as Ive seen in some Marx listings, engine and passenger car. And then theres pre-war electrics that are refered to as motorized cabooses.

Ah, whatever.

[prewardude]

The Bing set is kinda neat, but it really doesn't trip my switch (so to speak). I much prefer the "Classic Period" American tinplate, myself. It'll be interesting to see what Sask has to say about that Ives tender. At that price, it HAS to be something special! [:0]

[csxt30]

Well I see they split up the set. They have the eng. listed now seperately. That makes it real nice when one person wins the eng. & another wins the tender. Thanks,

[pbjwilson]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

Now that says class! I absolutely love sets like this one! When it comes to prewar tinplate, you can't beat the Germans! The passenger sets and stations made by Bing, Marklin and others will always be my favourites. Trains like this one do so much to capture the allure of the grand European luxury trains of yesteryear.

Well put Sask.

Can you fill me in on this one. Must be very rare to fetch this kind of dough.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6037701118&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

[Anonymous]

Now that says class! I absolutely love sets like this one! When it comes to prewar tinplate, you can't beat the Germans! The passenger sets and stations made by Bing, Marklin and others will always be my favourites. Trains like this one do so much to capture the allure of the grand European luxury trains of yesteryear.

[More to restore]

A beauty!
I wouldn't mind carefully playing with this lot, but I would for sure not spend so much on it. Perhaps a toy museum could buy this train for us all to admire...
By the way, the shipping costs over the Atlantic for a Lionel car is only 11-17 USD with USPS, so that is really not expensive at all. Perhaps the total S+H+insurance for this lot will only be 50 USD, not much in comparison to the value of the train.

[Anonymous]

Pricey indeed, just wait for the shipping cost.

Chris

[Anonymous]

Really nice, pricey but nice[swg]

[Anonymous]

I'm not surprised by the bids. Bing was one of the big names in tinplate O pre WW2, and has a big following. This looks to be in good condition too so I'd expect it to go higher.

[Dave Farquhar]

Well, I *can* think of worse ways to spend $1,385 (the approximate current bid). But I don't happen to have $1,385 burning a hole in my pocket right now either. But it doesn't cost anything to just admire it. I think I'll go look at it again.

[Dr. John]

Wow! That's really something!

A tad rich for my wallet, unfortunately.

[pbjwilson]

Look at the details on this set. Check out the interiors of the cars. Dual headlights. This is the cadillac of tinplate!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6036016970&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1