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Lionel Phateon III legend

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Lionel Phateon III legend
Posted by rrandb on Saturday, December 24, 2005 7:46 PM
Can anyone supply more information that the short blurb on the Lionel clock? [?] My girlfriend asked me and I have drawn a blank trying to google the answer. Was this a fantasy engine or is there some truth to the Pratt's Hollow MO reference???[?]
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Posted by csxt30 on Saturday, December 24, 2005 8:05 PM
No, I remember when that came out & it was all just fantasy !
I think they are valuable now though !
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Posted by rrandb on Sunday, December 25, 2005 5:22 PM
Thank you very much. I like to think i remember somethings. I did not remember any historical reference to the Pratt's Hollow, MO reference. Some one has a link to a post at this site with pictures of this engine and cars under there tree. He's a lucky dog.[:)]
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Posted by Jumijo on Thursday, December 29, 2005 5:36 AM
The Pratt's Holow story is fiction, created to give the weird, "retro-futuristic" train a backstory.

And I thought it was Phantom, not Phateon.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:01 AM
Pratt's Hollow is all too real!

http://moreauonline.com/PH_Res.htm

- Lou
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Posted by Bob Keller on Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:04 AM
If the locomotive hadn't only had one motor - and if the passenger cars hadn't hit the shelves two years late - and if the freight cars had been futuristic ... it might have caught on.

Bob Keller

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Posted by rrandb on Thursday, December 29, 2005 6:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jaabat

The Pratt's Holow story is fiction, created to give the weird, "retro-futuristic" train a backstory.

And I thought it was Phantom, not Phateon.

Jim
Yes it is. Not only is my spelling bad my proof-reading is noy very good either.
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Posted by rrandb on Thursday, December 29, 2005 6:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Lou Sessa

Pratt's Hollow is all too real!

http://moreauonline.com/PH_Res.htm

- Lou
I am not being critical and want to thank you for your link. We live in MO (missouri) which is why my girlfiend noticed this. If only the coonrod hilton was here it would be perfect. thanks again and ENJOY [:D]
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Posted by mersenne6 on Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:05 PM

...to add to Ogaugeoverlords comments ....and if, instead of looking like dancing baloney, the cars had been articulated to match the sweep of the original engine....
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Posted by MartyE on Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:48 PM
Or as we say in the Burgh...dancing Jumbo.[:D][:D] I always thought that the passenger car lines should have followed the engine as well. Too bad could of been even cooler. I have the original set. I like 'em except for the lack of pulling power.

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Posted by Dave45681 on Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:18 AM
The 3rd offering of the phantom is I think still in several of the larger dealers close out lists.

Without looking, I seem to remember them selling the engine with the cars for about $400 or a little more.

I don't know if the sounds were different at all for the 3 versions of the phantom, but I suspect they are really similar if not identical.

If anyone is willing to admit having all 3 versions and can verify, let's hear it![;)]

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Posted by rrandb on Sunday, January 1, 2006 3:56 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Dave45681

The 3rd offering of the phantom is I think still in several of the larger dealers close out lists.

Without looking, I seem to remember them selling the engine with the cars for about $400 or a little more.

I don't know if the sounds were different at all for the 3 versions of the phantom, but I suspect they are really similar if not identical.

If anyone is willing to admit having all 3 versions and can verify, let's hear it![;)]

[#ditto] I would pay a doller to see that.. Thanks again for all the good post. [bow]
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Posted by Craignor on Sunday, January 1, 2006 10:55 AM
Folks,

I have the original Phantom. I like it. a lot.

Farmer Bill bought the White 3rd generation Phantom and ran it in my layout. His new one had some new features: a red blinker in the upper cab, and a expanded set of erie sounds...I believe it has traction tires too.

A couple of years ago, I ordered a new power truck from Lionel that came with traction tires. It was an easy swap, and now my Phantom pulls the four car passenger set with no trouble on my Realtrax. Cost me $20 for the new truck.
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Posted by MartyE on Sunday, January 1, 2006 11:23 AM
Craig

I missed out on that new truck and I don't think Lionel has 'em anymore. I believe Norm had come up with a solution to the blinking under the red cab. You may want to visit his site or ask him on the MTJ forum.

I would love to get hooked up with one of those trucks. BTW if I'm not mistaken you and I were looking for the Phantom at the same time

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Posted by Craignor on Sunday, January 1, 2006 2:15 PM
Marty,

Yeah, you and me and some others were sucked in to Phantom fever by the CTT long term review of the Phantom in CTT, and Norm C's Phantom pics on his website.

I found mine on Ebay.

I don't want the blinker that the new one has, as I like to keep my locos in factory made condition as much as possible.

I think the original Phantom is becoming a collectors item.

The power truck with traction tires that I used is Lionel Part number 6-10-8516-150. I bought it directly from Lionel May of 2003 for $16.

I bought two: one for the Phantom and on for my Happy Holidays Geep. The swap was easy, no soldering required. After the swap, both single pullmor motered locos are stump pullers on all track systems, ferrous or non-ferrous.

Call or email Lionel, these may be in stock now.

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Posted by MartyE on Monday, January 2, 2006 7:02 PM
All right Craig... Ya made me pull it out...

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Posted by Craignor on Monday, January 2, 2006 8:42 PM
Marty,

Great shot of yer Phantom. Dang![:D][:)][:D]

Your layout looks great too.

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