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Needing Advice: Adding Sound To My Trains That Dont Have Sound.

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Needing Advice: Adding Sound To My Trains That Dont Have Sound.
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:06 PM
I have an older K-Line Santa Fe F-3 A-B-A that currently has no sounds. I contacted K-Line to ask them if they had an add-on, and they told me to get in touch with Lionel. I was wondering what would be my best option for adding sound to this train.

I also have a Williams Nickel Plate Road Berkshire on the way and it says that it has "True Blast Digital Whistle & Bell" and I am guessing that there is no chug sound (etc) included with True Blast. If that is the case, I will probably want to change that out with a more realistic sound feature aswell. What would be the best route for me to go with this train too?

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Posted by 1688torpedo on Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:47 PM
Hello Indy! Train America Studios has sound systems as does QSI that would be compatible for your trains and both places are on the web. Lionel also has Railsound Boxcars that you can use behind your Williams Steam Engine as well. Just check out their websites and see what they can do for you. Good Luck and keep us informed as to what you do.Take Care.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:49 PM
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Posted by daan on Friday, December 23, 2005 12:39 AM
The protosound 2 upgrade from MTH is said to work also when you want to give a loco sound. You must however have some other hardware to get files downloaded from the computer to the train. But if you want to make other engines into PS2, you can need the device again. In the CTT there was a complete item about converting an engine into PS2. This only works with flywheel equipped motors.
I think it's rather expensive though, about 200 dollars for the converting kit only.
You could also look on ebay and shows and find an ugly PS1 loco to use for the sounds. On ebay I've seen 2-6-0 loco's for 99 dollars with PS1, you can build the sound in the best engine and replace the sound module in the cheap engine with the e-unit from the other one. That way you have a nice engine with PS1 sounds (and if you are really a handyman also the coilcoupler) and a cheap one for the kids with a normal e-unit.
Williams doesn't use any sound except trueblast, and that's only a horn and bell. Sometimes railsounds are added later on, but then the price is a lot higher.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 23, 2005 1:19 AM
Thank you for all the input guys, I appreciate you taking the time to help me out.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 23, 2005 5:47 AM
An easy way is to buy an old Lionel Railsounds 1 boxcar. They come in both steam and diesel and sell between $60 and $90 on Ebay. There are also Railsounds 2 tenders available.

You can also buy sound only kits from Digital Dynamics. These cost about $90 and can be easily installed in the powered unit or a dummy unit with pickup rollers. I have a number of these I have installed in Williams and as MTH replacements with bad PS1 boards. The Railsounds fidelity is much better that the original PS1 and even some PS2 units I have.

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Posted by ChiefEagles on Friday, December 23, 2005 10:47 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Dale Hz

An easy way is to buy an old Lionel Railsounds 1 boxcar. They come in both steam and diesel and sell between $60 and $90 on Ebay. There are also Railsounds 2 tenders available.

You can also buy sound only kits from Digital Dynamics. These cost about $90 and can be easily installed in the powered unit or a dummy unit with pickup rollers. I have a number of these I have installed in Williams and as MTH replacements with bad PS1 boards. The Railsounds fidelity is much better that the original PS1 and even some PS2 units I have.

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[#ditto] and a lot cheaper than TAS.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 23, 2005 11:23 PM
Thank you for all the input guys, after doing some research with the information that was given to me in this post, I have decided to go with TAStudios.

F-3 ABA
1 TAS-3152-C F-3 specific Railsounds 4.0 for Conventional operation
1 TAS-POT 10K Ohm Volume Pot (for controlling the volume)

Berkshire
1 TAS-3130-C Berkshire specific Railsounds 4.0 for Conventional operation
1 TAS-POT 10K Ohm Volume Pot (for controlling the volume)

Thanks again for the input! Have a Merry Christmas!

Edit: Now that I look at it, I think TAS gave me the wrong info for the F3 train. I think the unit is supposed to be the TAS-3158.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 9, 2006 10:03 PM
Update: I went with TAS for the sound upgrade, I got it installed and it works good. Thanks for the help guys!!
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Posted by Jumijo on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 5:39 AM
Well, you're taken care of, but if any one else wants a very affordable way to add sounds to their pre-war or other trains, I'd say MRC's Soundstation 312 is the way to go. It has digital steam chuffing and diesel revving, horns, whistles, bells, all kinds of great train sounds. They usually sell for $75.00, but I've seen them as low as $40.00 online.

Check out the features at the link below:


http://www.modelrectifier.com/products/trainSound/product.asp?ID=1292&Subcategory=Sound%20systems


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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 6:21 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jaabat

Well, you're taken care of, but if any one else wants a very affordable way to add sounds to their pre-war or other trains, I'd say MRC's Soundstation 312 is the way to go. It has digital steam cuffing and diesel revving, horns, whistles, bells, all kinds of great train sounds. They usually sell for $75.00, but I've seen them as low as $40.00 online.





Yes, I've been using it on my small conventional layout for almost a year. It's also good for very young kids to use without them getting near the transformer. Train show price is usually $60.. Joe
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Posted by cnw1995 on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:42 AM
I use an older MRC sound unit that has only diesel 'engine' noise and steam chuff, as well as a slide bar for the diesel horn and steam whistle. It is easy to adjust the engine noise to the speed of a train and providing a slide bar is inspired - you can come up with your own distinct whistle or airhorn...

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Posted by Jumijo on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:54 AM
Credit where credit is due:

Brianel027 was the person who told me about these great sound systems. A lot of sound for a little money. For half the cost of 1 Railsounds boxcar, you get all the sounds of both steam and deisel. How can you hate it?

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Posted by cnw1995 on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:58 AM
Speaking of sound - the Railsounds-or was it Trainsounds-equipped tender on my passenger outfit needs a 9 v. battery. But this train sits a lot. Would one of those $24 BCR capacitors work the same way?

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Posted by Jumijo on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:21 AM
I don't know for sure, but am inclined to say they do, Doug. I operate my Railsounds tender without the battery. You could buy an aweful lot of 9v batteries for $24. My new Trainsounds El Capitan set doesn't even have a battery option.

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Posted by FEClionel on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:19 AM
How did you contact TAstudios - I want to upgrade my 8480 to railsounds 4.0
thanks!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:51 AM
http://www.tastudios.com
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Posted by dbaker48 on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:05 PM
I was just going to order the diesel and steam sound cars, this is really impressive. How is the sound quality? Does is sound remote (distant ) from where the action is ? And can the output be run in to a small stereo system for multiple speaker output?

Thanks

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Posted by dbaker48 on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:07 PM
Sorry, I was referring the MRC Soundstation 312

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:35 PM
The BCR will work with Lionel RS engines but you have to install an additional charging circuit costing about $20

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Posted by Jumijo on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:45 PM
The sound quality is pretty good. As good as Railsounds, but it has more of a selection, like couplers, etc., as well as having steam and deisel sounds all in one. It also has twice as many speakers which are larger, more robust. No need to buy anything else. The sound can be adjusted and the whistle/horn has a sliding switch to feather the sound out. Sound on sound capability as well. 2 speakers are included, as well as an amp if not mistaken.

I'm sure adding more speakers wouldn't be too difficult. I'm no electrical genius, Don. Not by a long shot, so please ask someone else about that.

MRC also makes city/country sound stations that have a lot of associated sound effects pertaining to each environment.

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Posted by dbaker48 on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 1:58 PM
Jim,
Thanks for the great info. I am going to give it a try.

Thanks !!!

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Posted by FEClionel on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:23 PM
Alright guys I order the basis railsounds set for my Lionel 8480's - thanks for all the help guys!

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