QSI raises the bar for all mfgs

[Anonymous]

3 rail how can you put lifelike proto 2000 in the same category? Have you seen the latest proto's better detailed than any plastic 3 rail loco except for the atlas rs 1 which is in a category all its own king of the 3rail plastic and the equal of any brass o locos. This of course is my opinion, but I have two and it has put my mth engines on the back burner (plastic diesel mth) I need to clarify. Dave.

[3railguy]

I like N scale when it comes to running large engines and rolling stock. They look more realistic on curves verses large O gauge engines that appear to be navigating trolley curves.

[Anonymous]

I too have N and O. Must say that the new Atlas 53' Tropicana Car stayed in the car until the oportune time came to bring it in!!! Never had to wait like that with the N Scale things! I love both scales, and both have plenty to offer in their own rights.

[Anonymous]

I have both N and O scale, love them both.[8D]

[palallin]

3railguy:

LoL! Very good point!

[3railguy]

I collect both N scale and O gauge and find it N scale much easier to sneak in the house.

[palallin]

All N scale trains belong on the toy forum: they're too small to take seriously, no matter how well detailed [}:)]

Joking aside, N scale is just too small to seem realistic, no matter what.

When my Lionel Frisco Mike pounds along the main line, it really pounds, just like a real steam locomotive. My N engines create an impression like that of an insect--tiny, tinny, and flitting. I just can't asign to them the representation "train," and no amount of sound is going to change that. In fact, if they could produce a full sound, they'd just appear even more incongruous.

[3railguy]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Ogaugeoverlord

Well, that's great for the smaller scales.

Perhaps this topic belongs on the MR forum, since it really isn't a toy train topic.

Yes for Kato and Micro-Trains but Bachman and Lifelike belong here on the Toy Train Forum.

[Bob Keller]

Well, that's great for the smaller scales.

Perhaps this topic belongs on the MR forum, since it really isn't a toy train topic.

[3railguy]

Who needs electronic sounds with N scale? We got mechanical sound. I recently bought a Bachman GP-50 for $23.00. Once broke in, the gear train sounds like an aging 567 on the verge of throwing a rod. To make things sweeter, I had that sucker running full throttle with 15 cars for an hour and the aroma of hot grease was breath taking.

[FJ and G]

Dave,

Completely agree w/you. Not just the sound and electronics, but some N scale stuff is better detailed than 3-rail

[Anonymous]

First of all you need to have a qsi quantum system to evaluate its advanced systems compared to the 3 rail, then you have to listen to them . Each engine has a acoustic chamber designed for it by qsi before it gets made. Maybe the sound isnt as bassy but it will make you turn your head when you hear one for the first time.
Also the quantum system has 20 different things you can program yourself, like the volume of each sound, starting voltage etc.
Anyway the comment that these engines are less com;licated is a bunch of BS. Take a look at the lionel HO command challenger. There has never been an o gauge diecast engine that will touch it for detail, and sound system already installed.
Plus the sound system is the universal system used in HO and N the nmra DCC.
QSI has also made sure that you can do the same things with just a dc transformer.
Can you do that with mth or lionel. No way.
How about price.
The lionel challenger was originally setr at 699.00. Where in 3 rail can you get a super detailed excellent running and DCC equipted for 699.
If I recall the latested mth and lionel ones were in the 1600.00 range.
Yes, 3 rail is a rip off.
In answer to the mth qsi problem, qsi has to leave speed control out of their systems or get sued by mth. So do all the other dcc systems.
That will all solve itself when the lionel and mth thing gets done and qsi gets to sink its teeth into mth with the 9 patent infringements used in the current DCS system.

[Big_Boy_4005]

The biggest obstacle for sound in small scales is speaker size, which equates to sound quality. The actual electronics are already small enough.

[Bob Keller]

I believe that the smaller gauges have quite a way to go before they can rival the sounds and reproductive quality of either Lionel Railsounds or MTH ProtoSound 2.0. Five years from now, who knows.

[eZAK]

Don't forget when comparing apples to oranges, you have a lot less of everthing to deal with in HO & N.

Such as Power, Weight, Voltage, Draw Bar Pull, ..etc.

[Anonymous]

Wow...Guess it was only a matter of time. I can't wait to see some of the "N" track layouts with a multi engine lash up! It should be interesting and a lot of fun!

I thought QSI was already having Wolf problems or has that all been resolved? I sure hope it's all over or that I was dreaming it!

[Anonymous]

Just got my April issue of Model RR and on page 21 is a full page ad of what seems to be unbelieveable to do.
Coming out in early summer they are going to be selling N gauge E7 with the quantum dcc and sound systems.
Now I was not a believer that HO could have good sound until I heard a Broadway ltd ho loco and now my own Lionel HO challenger and the sound is great.
So they stumped me there and I am sure it will be the same in N. Their system is so small it is too bad all the 3 rail mfgs do not use it as it would surely fit in anything 3 rail that exists and it is a full bore sound system with all the things that are in a 3000 system if you have heard one.
QSi is now in the most lucrative part of model trains, HO and N. I bet they do not miss at all haveing to put up with the Wolf and all his rants.
Dave Roxin. The web page is: www.precisioncraftmodels.com