Cool mail box!
I approve. ?
Bummer Penny!
I was guessing that an O scale 1:48 model would be almost 2 feet long. Then I did the math and boy I was WAY off!
Same me, different spelling!
philo426 Not sure of the scale they are between 12 and 14 inches long.
Not sure of the scale they are between 12 and 14 inches long.
Assuming that the monitor is the same size as the Cerberus, which is 225 feet long, the scale would be therefore around 1/225. This is about Z scale.
At first thought, this seems ridiculously small, but I guess ships are quite big.
There is a very good model of the port area of the Australian city of Newcastle in N scale and even the relatively small ships would be several inches long.
Peter
You know, the ship classification"monitor" lasted up until WW2 but the ships were quite different. Built as single-purpose shore bombardment ships here's one the Royal Navy had during the war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monitor_(warship)#/media/File:HMS_Erebus_I02.jpg
philo426 No doubt ,they way they pounded each other often at point black range was remarkable and it ended in a draw ..
No doubt ,they way they pounded each other often at point black range was remarkable and it ended in a draw ..
Sure. The ships were armored but armor-piercing shells hadn't been developed yet. But it wouldn't take long.
pennytrainsAmazing how fast the concept of a gun turret spread around the world after Hampton Roads.
I imagine a lot of naval architects were kicking themselves and saying "WHY didn't I think of that?"
They look great, 'Philo' - what scale are they? Or what size? (I have a host of similar models for gaming that are far smaller at 1:1200)
Doug Murphy 'We few, we happy few, we band of brothers...' Henry V.
Interesting job!
While I had the website open, I thought I would indulge myself and look at a ship I've actually been to sea on, HMAS ANZAC. It was almost new when I was aboard and everything worked as designed.
Going to https://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-anzac-iii
The third photo dated 2005 shows the ship as first built. I was particularly impressed by the "Sea Giraffe" radar that could automatically track the ship's own 5" projectiles, the small antenna on the foremast. This was replaced by the lower phased array on the new mainmast shown in more recent photos.
I assisted the ship's engineer to prepare the first damage control instructions, which provided an excuse to visit every compartment and space on the ship.
Here's a free paper model of an 1871 German monitor type warship.
https://www.papershipwright.co.uk/product/sms-rhein-mosel/
Amazing how fast the concept of a gun turret spread around the world after Hampton Roads.
philo426 Still in pretty good shape the iron must be thick indeed!
Still in pretty good shape the iron must be thick indeed!
Most of the visible parts of the ship are armour plate, which would have been thick and very hard. I'm told the lower parts of the hull have not survived as well. Otherwise I'm sure it would have been retrieved for a museum and replaced by a pile of rocks. But the drawings and photographs would be a help for detailing a model, since it is pretty much contemporary with the Civil War vessels.
M636C there is such a monitor still in existence
VERY interesting Peter! Cerberus must have been one well-built and tough ship, from the picture we can see that even after nearly 100 years as a breakwater she's still relatively intact. Impressive!
While a little later than the USA Civil War, (1867), there is such a monitor still in existence in Port Phillip Bay, Victoria, Australia. While it was sunk as a breakwater in 1926, the structure has survived owing to the corrosion resistance of the iron structure. I believe that at low tide, the hull is clear of the water, almost at its original waterline.
The link https://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-cerberus-hmvs
provides a history of the ship and interesting drawings that might assist in detailing a model. While they are active elsewhere, the Russians have so far shown no interest in invading Australia. The Japanese were the last threat in that regard in 1942. Two Russian warships turned up in Sydney Harbour without prior notice about the time the Cerberus was ordered which caused a considerable panic, although it was just a normal friendly visit.
Thanks!
Cool
Yes I heard that they did do I decided to add a second turret.
Nice! And a twin-turret monitor, you don't see those every day!
(Yes, they really did build some.)
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