JT's smoke fluid!

[ChiefEagles]

Good idea Northern. Remember the great O gauger of years ago [seems like he was Frank somebody???]. Died of lung cancer. Used asbestos for mountains and scenery hills and etc. Now they know the particles cause lung cancer.

[Anonymous]

The one thing I have not seen addressed yet is breathing in the used smoke. Is it any better than cigarette smoke. We could all be in trouble if it is. May be ctt can do an article on that.
I know Rich of ogr did flame studies on fluids but have not seen cancer problems with breathing the train stuff. Dave.

[Kooljock1]

There are three posts on this thread recommending putting liquids not designed specifically for toy train smoke units into smoke generators.

In a word: DON'T.

JT's makes a superior product that smokes well, smells better, AND HAS BEEN TESTED FOR HUMAN EXPOSURE!

Putting motor oil, lamp oil, mineral oil/spirits, fog machine liquid or whatever to save a few pennies on smoke fluid is not only being cheap, it's being STUPID.

While the smoke produced from these products MAY not be carcinogenic in and of themselves, they may also produce particulates that carcinogens can attach to, and therefore be swept into your lungs.

JT's and other smoke brands are VAPORIZED and then CONDENSED droplets of fluid, not containing particulates.

You want to kill yourselves with cheap crap off the shelves of K-Mart to save a few cents...justdoesn't make sense!

Jon [8D]

[iguanaman3]

My son has a halloween "fog" generator. It will fill a room in minutes with thick fog. I've been tempted to try his fog liquid (it comes in quarts!) in my locos. Does anyone know what the fogging liquid is? The machine has a heater just like a smoke unit so it seem that it would work the same.

[spankybird]

I agree with Dave, but also note that LBG makes two types of smoke fluid, mineral oil and one for seuthe smoke units.

tom

[Anonymous]

Do not use JT's or anything but LGB in a seuthe smoke. Yes it will clog them up. They require a very thin fluid and the Seuth or LGB fluids are the only ones to work. I even put some concentrated christmas scent in the lgb fluid one christmas and it smelled good but it runed the smoke unit.
I use the christmas pine all year around as I have the same heating system as chief and my wife likes it so there is no problem.
Dave.

[ben10ben]

Several people have been suggesting a smoke pellet scented fluid for a while now, as I will probably when I make my next order. I definitely prefer the scent of pellets to the scent of any mineral oil, although I do have my doubts that any amount of scenting or any scent will be able to completely mask the scent of the mineral oil(not present in smoke pellets). I have two pellet engines, a 681 and a 675, and both always have at least some pellets in them. The 675 does get fluid some, but I still prefer to feed it pellets.

Someone commented that scented smoke fluids gum up smoke units. For years, the only game in town with regard to scented smoke fluids was Supersmoke. I have used Supersmoke in my American Flyer engines before, and I definitely noticed them being gummed up from it. I have heard that this is true even for the unscented smoke fluids. It may be a case of a specific brand being associated with both scented smoke fluids and gumming up smoke units that has been translated into a generalization that all scented smoke fluids clog up units.

[Anonymous]

Ive been in and around steamers, coal fired... and that smoke does not smell like one, Smells like burning rubber. I like Vanilla and Cinimon Roll, and where I do shows, they like it as well.

Chris

[92hatchattack]

cool, i might have to buy a bottle for when my Polar Express comes in :)

[ChiefEagles]

coal-fired steamer is what I am running in my steamers. Smells just like that. Smokes real good.

[92hatchattack]

anyone know if any of these scents smell like the original lionel??? which one???

and hows the coal-fired steamer??? sounds good!

[ChiefEagles]

Returns closable, NO. The vent outlets are. Would have to cut some cardboard and cover them.

[eZAK]

[:D] Just go by a .99 cent pint bottle of mineral oil and be done with it. [:o)][:D]

[Jumijo]

I guess my wife's nose will just have to be patient! Thanks again, Tom. I'm new to the hobby and appreciate the helpful responses.

Jim

[spankybird]

Jim, It may take 3 or 4 filling of the smoke unit for it to have the correct odor. Yes it does burn faster, becuase it is a purer mineral oil. This is part of the reason why it produces more smoke.

tom

[mcattardo]

I love the stuff.

Cheif, are those returns closeable?

[Jumijo]

QUOTE: Originally posted by spankybird

Hi jaabat,

I can say with having over 25 steam engines that I have not had any problems with the JT fluid.

tom

Thanks for your input, Tom. Although I've only heard great things about JT's smoke fluid, I've heard that some scented fluids can gum up smoke units, so I was a little concerned.

I bought a small bottle of JT's Apple Harvest scented fluid, and have been using it exclusively in my (kid's) Lionel NYC Flyer 4-4-2 for a couple of weeks now. It certainly does increase the smoke output. There's no denying that. It does seem to need frequent replenishing to maintain the volume though. Also, my wife claims that the fluid smells great in the bottle, but she does not detect any difference in smell between smoke generated by JT's and Lionel's fluids. Since I have no sense of smell, I couldn't care less, as long as it smokes, and it does.

Jim

[spankybird]

Hi jaabat,

I can say with having over 25 steam engines that I have not had any problems with the JT fluid.

tom

[Jumijo]

JT's fluid is scented, so I'm wondering has any one experienced problems with clogged or gummed up smoke units using this brand of fluid?

[ChiefEagles]

Can not believe you guys are not purest. Steamer burning coal and diesels burning diesel. What is the WIMPY smells yuz giz use. [;)]

[ben10ben]

Been using JT's for two years, back when Jeff was just JTTrains selling three scents of smoke fluid on Ebay. I've loved it, and really need to order some more. My stock of Vanilla(one of the original 3 scents, and one that I still have an original bottle of) is running low, as is my Wood Stove. I want to try out some of his new scents as well.

[Buckeye Riveter]

Chief, didn't you mix some JT's with some regular fluid and it made it last longer and stink the room up more?

[ChiefEagles]

It fills my upstairs and then the odor comes downstairs [the heating/A/C system recirculates it. My house was built in 1940. Every room has to heat/A/C outlets and two returns [yes, two returns in each room]. Actually very efficient. The duct work would cost too much today. Anyway, Pam the Bloodhound [wife] gets home from work and can sniff and say, you have been running trains today. [:D] So, I am installing a bath exhaust fan in the ceiling of the train room. Tom puts used black engine oil in his to make that BLACK smoke.

[Anonymous]

Wow, I guess when my $10 container of MTH smoke fluid runs out I'll pick some of that out and give it a try. The Hobby Shop has that smoke fluid.

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Pour it out!

Youll be glad!

[spankybird]

It does work great



But Chris, nothing smokes like an MTH

[Anonymous]

No residue at all, just clean smoke that will dissapate quite fast if you do not let engine set in one spot all night.
Highly recommend it. I buy it by the bottle as it is cheaper. I love both christmas pine and vannela.
None better.
Dave.

[Anonymous]

Wow, I guess when my $10 container of MTH smoke fluid runs out I'll pick some of that out and give it a try. The Hobby Shop has that smoke fluid.

[Anonymous]

Tom, Contact Jeff, hes a great guy I know him personally. No white residue here!

Chris

[Buckeye Riveter]

You can find more information about JT's smoke fluid at their website:
http://www.megasteam.com/

It is great stuff! I have used it on G Scale and it make a big difference.