Ives(?) Basket Case Motor

[Leverettrailfan]

I purchased an assortment of various 'train junk' on 7/29 at an antiques place- among the items I had pooled together to get a deal on, was this sorry looking motor. It appears to resemble some motors that were made by Ives, looking at what comes up when searching "ives motor" online. There are, however, a few major differences. The biggest ones that jump out at me, are a) it has a collector assembly with only one roller, versus the two I was seeing in pictures, b) there is only one driven axle, and c) there are no screws used anywhere on the motor assembly- everything is rivited together (talk about a servicing nightmare).

Looking at the shape of things, I think it's not unlikely I may be forced to rewind the motor- assuming it can be salvaged. The commutator is in pieces, so some very serious work would be required no matter what, if I wanted to make it run.

Do folks have any experience with or knowledge about Ives motors of this type? I'm really not sure how to take it apart in a manor that wouldn't destroy my chances of reassembly- I could grind, file, and drill my way through any number of rivets, but that's no good if I need to reuse them to put the motor back together.
Any help is very much appreciated!

(Edit: figured out how to embed the pictures into this post)

[pennytrains]

The Ives Train Society is your best bet!  Looks like a 1910 1100 series motor.  Your bottom of the motor photo looks identical to one they have on this page:  http://www.ivestrains.org/CD/O_Gauge/locomotive/electric/1100/htmlfiles/No1100_2.htm

[Leverettrailfan]

pennytrains

The Ives Train Society is your best bet!  Looks like a 1910 1100 series motor.  Your bottom of the motor photo looks identical to one they have on this page:  http://www.ivestrains.org/CD/O_Gauge/locomotive/electric/1100/htmlfiles/No1100_2.htm

 

Ah! Thanks Becky, I completely forgot this site existed! It certainly looks like a match to me!
If it is safe to assume the motor came from one of the pictured locomotives, then that would date it to the early 1910s... making it possibly the oldest, if not among the oldest toy trains I own! Now I'm even more eager to see what could possibly be done to make it run again...