help gathering info on HUDSON'S BAY Oil and Gas train car.

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help gathering info on HUDSON'S BAY Oil and Gas train car.
Posted by IknowNuthinAboutToyTrains on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 2:55 PM

Hi all. I recently came into a possession of a HUDSON'S BAY Oil and Gas train car. 

I know nothing about trains. Curious to find out who the manufacturer is and if this is a O or O27 car?

It is about 9" long, green, metal, width between wheels is about 1". 

People have been asking me about if but I am not knowledgeable and don't know what to tell them lol

Not sure how to attach an image here.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 5:16 PM

By you description it might be s scale ( american flyer) as there track is about 1" wide I believe. O and O-27 is wider than a inch about 1 1/2" between the rails

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Posted by lionelsoni on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 5:18 PM

Did you look under the bottom of the car for a manufacturer's name?  Is it a tank car?  If so, how many domes?  What is the distance between the tips of the wheel flanges?  Are the wheel treads cylindrical or conical?  Does it have Janney couplers?  Are the couplers attached to the trucks or to the body of the car?  Is the green color a bright green or a pale green?  

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Posted by lionelsoni on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 5:23 PM

S gauge is 7/8 inch.  O gauge varies, but is typically 1 1/4 inch.  He measured between unspecified points on the wheels, not the rails (which he probably doesn't have).

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Posted by CookieBear on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:31 PM

I have a Hudson's Bay Oil and Gas (HBOG) tank car. It was made by Lionel - O gauge.  Tank car has reporting marks "UTLX 19605".  Has an inscription below reporting marks "BLT 1-94 - Lionel". It is a single dome tank car for liquid sulphur.  INnteresting, I worked at HBOG from 1974 to 1981 in the engineering department until they were sold in November 1981.

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Posted by lionelsoni on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:58 PM

He said it was green and made of metal.  The 19605 is about the right length, but yellow, and the shell looks like plastic to me.

Bob Nelson

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