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Posted by Postwar Paul on Thursday, July 4, 2019 9:16 PM

phrankenstign

Regarding the original post....

It's my expert opinion the electrical parts appear to have come out.  That's probably why it stopped working.

 

Thank you for that ! It is always good to have an extra set of eyes looking.

What I found with this engine was that I jumped ahead with the E - unit rebuild, but ultimately the real problem turned out to be dirty connections where things touch, and are supposed to have continuity. This was fine when everything was new, and clean, but over the years with tarnish, rust, lubricants seeping into metal pieces that are touching, it needed a little help.

I have seen this before, the first time was with the 726rr, and anemic performance. One day, I had the shell off, and noticed sparking where the field coil is grounded to a lug on the motor. The entire engine is counting on this connection to complete the circuit. I tied down a a solid ground to frame, and this engine is a monster !! It can pull like you wouldn't believe!!

I just think this problem is more common than people realize with these old trains ! But, it is good to have another set of eyes. 

Thanks Again,

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Posted by phrankenstign on Thursday, July 4, 2019 8:36 PM

Regarding the original post..........

It's my expert opinion the electrical parts appear to have come out.  That's probably why it stopped working.

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Thursday, July 4, 2019 12:34 PM

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Uh, weren't you swerving close to blasphemy painting an New York Central Hudson in PRR Tuscan red?  

 

Perhaps....

I actually mixed paint to get this shape, just liked the color !

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Thursday, July 4, 2019 11:59 AM

Uh, weren't you swerving close to blasphemy painting an New York Central Hudson in PRR Tuscan red?  

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Thursday, July 4, 2019 11:31 AM

Unfortunately, the NYC Hudson was stripped for parts:

 

 

 

 

 

I needed the boiler b ackhead for a kit bash.

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Thursday, July 4, 2019 11:26 AM

 This one has the Chessie pilot

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Thursday, July 4, 2019 11:22 AM

 Here's another Monogram Hudson

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Monday, July 1, 2019 7:47 PM

M636C

 

 
Postwar Paul

 When this engine was clean, and new, it was Emerald Green Metallic, with gold drive wheels. I guess I had a Toy Train spirit, even then....

 

 

 

Were the Santa Fe Hudson decals included in the kit?

A similar model was made by Kitmaster in England before 1960. I don't think this was ever revived by Airfix or Dapol as were most of the British prototypes...

Peter

 

wow, Peter !!

You're Good !!

Monogram produced these kits in 3 flavors :

NYC, with appropriate pilot, and decals

Chessie, again with a Chessie pilot and decals

and Santa Fe.if you notice, my engine has a Santa Fe pilot

you have very sharp eyes !!

the only one I built correctly was the New York Central.

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Posted by Penny Trains on Monday, July 1, 2019 7:33 PM

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That being the case I'm afraid to ask what they'd cost!

I took a quick peek and found a beat-up tender for 33 bucks.

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Posted by M636C on Monday, July 1, 2019 9:26 AM

Postwar Paul

 When this engine was clean, and new, it was Emerald Green Metallic, with gold drive wheels. I guess I had a Toy Train spirit, even then....

 

Were the Santa Fe Hudson decals included in the kit?

A similar model was made by Kitmaster in England before 1960. I don't think this was ever revived by Airfix or Dapol as were most of the British prototypes...

Peter

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, June 29, 2019 7:56 PM

Aren't they though?  And they must be up there on the rarity scale, I've been going to train shows for 20+ years, antique shows for 40, and I've never seen them anywhere.

That being the case I'm afraid to ask what they'd cost!

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, June 29, 2019 7:01 PM

Penny Trains

Your're probably thinking of this one, which is what came to my mind too:

Revell is the most recent producer of the Big Boy:

Strangely and sadly they're not in current production!  Tongue Tied

 

The cool thing about the Toy Train hobby is that things keep turning up that I had no idea even existed !!!

Those are some really, really beautiful engines !!

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, June 29, 2019 6:53 PM

THAT'S the one, Becky!  That's exactly the AF engine I was thinking of.  As I said, "kinda-sorta" like Paul's custom job.

So Revell's got the Big Boy kit now!  Revell's the outfit that made 75% of the WW1 fighter models I built years ago, Airfix made the others. 

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Posted by Penny Trains on Saturday, June 29, 2019 6:47 PM

Your're probably thinking of this one, which is what came to my mind too:

Revell is the most recent producer of the Big Boy:

Strangely and sadly they're not in current production!  Tongue Tied

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, June 29, 2019 6:36 PM

Very clever, very clever indeed.  It "kinda-sorta" looks like a pre-war American Flyer O gauge streamliner, I don't recall the model though, I'm not an A-F guy.

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, June 29, 2019 4:53 PM

 When this engine was clean, and new, it was Emerald Green Metallic, with gold drive wheels. I guess I had a Toy Train spirit, even then....

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, June 29, 2019 4:48 PM

 Here's a couple of close ups of my Hudson.  Keep in mind this was originally a NYC engine ( I did build one that way ).

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, June 29, 2019 4:46 PM

Flintlock76

OK, this  is a Nieuport 28...

https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/nieuport-28c1  

Not the best fighter of WW1, but certainly the most elegant!

 

That's a great looking plane ! Would be a fun model to build !

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, June 29, 2019 9:24 AM

OK, this  is a Nieuport 28...

https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/nieuport-28c1  

Not the best fighter of WW1, but certainly the most elegant!

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Friday, June 28, 2019 8:40 PM

I wish I knew more about planes. All I know is 737, 747, DC-10, P51 Mustang. That's it! Been living and breathing trains my whole life . 

Never could explain to anybody why !

But people get excited about cars, planes, ships, but me just trains.

By sticking to only trains, it helps to keep my collection small !

Huh?

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, June 28, 2019 7:51 PM

Nicely done!  I remember those Monogram kits, a Hudson and a Big Boy, if I remember correctly.

They're still in production, although I don't believe under the Monogram label. 

I was into model aircraft myself, WW1 period. Built the last one, a Nieuport 28, in 1977.

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Friday, June 28, 2019 7:34 PM

Flintlock76

Great job on the 258, but I'm intrigued by that slick-lookin' locomotive with 3462 on the side.  What is it?  Pre-war American Flyer? 

 

It is the Monogram Hudson ! A $10 plastic kit in HO scale, for display only. I built 3 of them. This one was inspired by a book I was reading at the time about Streamlined steam engines . It is completely free lance, from my imagination. Built in 1983. 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, June 28, 2019 9:57 AM

Great job on the 258, but I'm intrigued by that slick-lookin' locomotive with 3462 on the side.  What is it?  Pre-war American Flyer? 

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:10 PM

Welcome home

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:03 PM

 Running as intended

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:59 PM

 This is the 3rd time I've had to take countermeasures for a dirty ground path on a locomotive.

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:55 PM

 Running consistently, and reliably at 10 volts, for extended runs

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 11:49 PM

 So far, so good. Running smoothly forward and reverse. More testing needed...

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Wednesday, June 26, 2019 11:44 PM

 I used Blue Loctite to keep the brush plate screws from working loose. Blue is still removable, red is permanent.

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