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Prototype?
Posted by Penny Trains on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 7:10 PM

While reading some old National Geographic magazines today I came accross a mention of a 1957 event in the article "Lethal Legacy; Pollution in the Former U.S.S.R." by Mike Edwards in the August 1994 issue that got me wanting to know more.  So, I looked up "Chelyabinsk-65" and learned about the explosion that occurred at this weapons-grade uranium processing plant east of the Urals.  And in searching for photos I came accross this one:

And said to myself "Hey!  That looks familiar!"

Now, I'm not saying that anyone at Lionel had access to any plans, photos or other information on a top-top-secret soviet nuclear weapons facility, but it does look similar!  Big Smile

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 11:00 PM

Soviet technology...

I don't know if your old enough to remember:

those home popcorn makers that consisted of a foil pan with kernels inside, and a foil top. As the popcorn popped, the foil top would expand into a giant foil bubble...

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Posted by cwburfle on Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:55 AM

Sounds like Jiffy Pop popcorn.
It is still available.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiffy_Pop

 

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Posted by wrmcclellan on Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:30 PM

Becky - that is just too cool!

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:01 PM

cwburfle

Sounds like Jiffy Pop popcorn.
It is still available.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiffy_Pop

 

 

"Jiffy Pop"

 the name to trust in reactors....

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Posted by Penny Trains on Friday, August 17, 2018 7:13 PM

Ever see the "mousetrap fission experiment"?  Big Smile

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, August 18, 2018 12:59 PM

You have to break a few eggs to make an omelette.

 

Other than that, it's all water under the fridge...

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Posted by Penny Trains on Saturday, August 18, 2018 6:39 PM

Postwar Paul
Other than that, it's all water under the fridge...

As long as it doesn't look like Tongue Tied gulp... this:

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, August 18, 2018 10:57 PM

Come and listen to my story 'bout a man named Jed

poor mountaineer barely kept his family fed

then one day he was shoot in' at some food

up through the ground came a bubbling crude..

oil, that is...

 

sorry not to make light of nuclear waste.

your bummin' me out, man !

 

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Saturday, August 18, 2018 11:27 PM

And I looked at Chelbayinsk, and some of the other disaster sites in Russia. Cities that are uninhabitable, and off limits. There were many. It's a sad story, but thank you for raising awareness.

There's nothing funny about any of this, it's awful.

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Posted by Penny Trains on Sunday, August 19, 2018 7:16 PM

Postwar Paul
sorry not to make light of nuclear waste. your bummin' me out, man !

That's the "Elephant's Foot" or "Elephant's Leg" depending on your source.  It's what's left of the fuel pellets, zirconium cladding, graphite control rods, some steel and the concrete of the containment at Unit #4 of the Chernobyl plant.  The question is WHY for the love of God would ANYBODY be stupid enough to be poking around with that stuff!  Tongue Tied

I don't like to be a Debbie Downer or anything, it's just that around July 16th (Trinity test) and even more so between August 6th (Hiroshima) and 9th (Nagasaki) I can't help but think about human stupidity.  Sad  And this stuff is #1 on the list.  SoapBox

Anyhoo.  Can you imagine Lionel sending Frank Petit into a secret Soviet weapons site to get design ideas for a Lionel accessory?  Laugh

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Posted by Firelock76 on Sunday, August 19, 2018 7:29 PM

Sending Frank Petit on a spy mission?  Nah, I think ol' J.L. Cowan would have gone himself, the Old Man was just gungi enough to try it if he thought he could get away with it! 

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Sunday, August 19, 2018 8:12 PM

Penny Trains

 

 
Postwar Paul
sorry not to make light of nuclear waste. your bummin' me out, man !

 

That's the "Elephant's Foot" or "Elephant's Leg" depending on your source.  It's what's left of the fuel pellets, zirconium cladding, graphite control rods, some steel and the concrete of the containment at Unit #4 of the Chernobyl plant.  The question is WHY for the love of God would ANYBODY be stupid enough to be poking around with that stuff!  Tongue Tied

I don't like to be a Debbie Downer or anything, it's just that around July 16th (Trinity test) and even more so between August 6th (Hiroshima) and 9th (Nagasaki) I can't help but think about human stupidity.  Sad  And this stuff is #1 on the list.  SoapBox

Anyhoo.  Can you imagine Lionel sending Frank Petit into a secret Soviet weapons site to get design ideas for a Lionel accessory?  Laugh

 O.k. 
Fair enough.
I'm with you, by the way...

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Posted by Penny Trains on Monday, August 20, 2018 7:06 PM

Firelock76
Frank Petit oBig Smilen a spy mission

Petit.  Frank Petit.  Shaken, not stirred. 

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Monday, August 20, 2018 10:55 PM

Frank Petit: International Man of Mystery...

Groovey Bay Bay...

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Posted by cwburfle on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 4:56 AM

Sending Frank Petit on a spy mission?  Nah, I think ol' J.L. Cowan would have gone himself, the Old Man was just gungi enough to try it if he thought he could get away with it!

Years ago I read an interview that made mention of a little industrial esponiage that occurred between Lionel and Gilbert. From time to time I have tried to find the piece. So far, no luck.

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 6:07 AM

cwburfle

Years ago I read an interview that made mention of a little industrial esponiage that occurred between Lionel and Gilbert. From time to time I have tried to find the piece. So far, no luck.

 

That would be interesting! 

I would like to think they inspired each other, but there may be more to the story. I can't help but noticing similarities in box art from 1960's Tyco, and Lionel catalogue pictures.

There was a lot of " borrowing" going on...

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Posted by Penny Trains on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 6:58 PM

Gee, ya think?  Laugh

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