Lionel 225e questions-need advice with tis prewar stuff..

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Lionel 225e questions-need advice with tis prewar stuff..
Posted by northernpike on Tuesday, January 02, 2018 10:36 PM

Was given a 225e over weekend.  Also has the cast 2235 tender.   Both need work, neither operates.


Brushplate appears to be upside down with the tube holders facing the commutator.  Thats how it was when I opened engine.  Brushes shot, about 1/4" long.

The brushplate springs have screw mounts for the e unit wires on the brush holders. Not soldered like postwar.

I googled images of the 225e motor and it looks like they used two different brushplates.  One has the brush tubes facing up, the other is  facing down towards the commutator as in the case of my engine. Which is correct or are both??

I know postwar motors well but this prewar stuff has me second guessing.

Also needs boilerfront.  Looks like repros are all thats left.

Tender has box coupler.  Missing latch.  How is that installed?  Looks like a

clinched mounting?

Need advice.  Looks like a solid engine if I can get it going. 

Thanks in advance


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Posted by rtraincollector on Wednesday, January 03, 2018 2:36 AM

There are engines in prewar where the brush plate looks upside down. do not try to correct. here is some links for you

hopefully these will help


For parts and he will give you tips on how to if you ask contact Jeff Kane for his website with his phone number which probably be the best way to talk to him. He's normally there at night. 585-229-2050

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Posted by cwburfle on Wednesday, January 03, 2018 4:25 AM

Nice gift!

Yes, the "spear" was staked in place. As long as you are joining the tender to a car that has it's spear, you don't need it. Two couples will stay together as long as one of them has the "spear".

If you can figure out a way to support the "spear" you can stake it with a couple of crossways indents made with a metal chisel.
Hobby Horse makes a tool set specifically for this job. It has to be used in a press.

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Posted by northernpike on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:33 PM

Thanks.  Drawings help a lot.


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