I got an e-mail from CTT about another Kalmbach magazine:
It had also had this description:
Based on the topic of this thread, I found it very amusing!
I don't mind the thread about the tips issue.
I don't mind criticism of the magazine or staff.
I do take exception to the amount of personal snark creeping into it. Take it to the bike rack after school, not here.
Bob Keller
I love truth in advertising!
I didn't start this thread to get everyone to post their gripes about the magazine. I've enjoyed reading the magazine's 30 years worth of issues. All I'm asking for is a list of the tips CTT advertised on their covers. Since the latest issue continues the practice, it proves somebody is counting them. I don't think it's beyond reason to ask that person to list them here.
KRMyou were going to dismantal your layout, never did,ha?
I see you as a since 2016 member with 50 post, guess you kissed and made up. Must of got over you past when you were going to dismantal your layout, never did,ha? I stick to my views. Your welcome to yours.
Joined 1-21-2011 TCA 13-68614
Kev, From The North Bluff Above Marseilles IL.
KRMMy problem is they, CTT seem lazy on finding new and deferent layouts to feature. The few are not the only.
Welp, to call guys like Roger or Carl lazy when it comes to the hobby they have embraced for decades is quite a statement. yes, I know these guys, and I know the competition too.The CTT Staff is in it because they love the hobby and Roger in particular is probably one of the foremost authorities on the hobby. I'm guessing none of these guys is getting rich on this career. Call it cheerleading if you like, but to call these guys misleading or lazy is just silly.
With you Dave,
Frank 54 is a regular who get pages and pages of praise in CTT over many years and does nice work so ,,,yeah he is on the defense like their other favorites barking here, they have that do all the work for them and all they have to do is post what they are sent. My problem is they, CTT seem lazy on finding new and deferent layouts to feature. The few are not the only.
Frank54 If this is really. so upsetting, cancel your subscription and get a new hobby.
If this is really. so upsetting, cancel your subscription and get a new hobby.
We all have our things we dislike. Apparently yours is intolerance for those who believe a misleading headline is not a favored regular feature of one of their favorite train magazines.
For phrankenstign and myself it's the misleading headlines.
For Banks and palallin, it's the special issue thing, which I do not personally have a problem with (bought the most recent one and had Roger sign it), but I respect their right to have an opinion on it and post it here.
I'm sure CTT greatly appreciates you suggesting several 20 year + subscribers cancel their subscriptions due to your distaste for the dialog happening in this thread. That would fix it all for you I guess.
-Dave
etc.
The definition of “a tip” related to information is rather broad covering a wide spectrum on nuances. If I use the definition “a piece of information that provides an advantage”, then it is in the eyes of the beholder (aka reader) what constitutes a “tip”. Since CTT is a specialty magazine, all information contained within may be a “tip” to one person but not another. The newer one is to the hobby, the more “tips” contained with the pages of each issue. I can remember how excited I was the first time I looked through a CTT issue and all the “tips” I saw. As an example, the first time I saw the ad for LED’s that can be used on a layout it was a “tip” for me. Wow, I found a source for water tank blinking red LEDs just the right size, and low current draw white and off-white LEDs for my buildings. So let’s take a deep breath, have fun, enjoy the hobby and our monthly (almost) issue of CTT, “tip” counts and all.
Papa D
Frank54Bob: You've deleted threads for less. Kill this off already.
If you don't like my thread, don't read it. I don't ask (let alone tell) Bob to delete your threads (or anybody else's for that matter).
Bob: You've deleted threads for less. Kill this off already.
CTT Staff: How about listing the 83 Tips for the first issue I asked about and the 75 Tips listed for the December issue?
Obviously, someone's counting them, since the numbers are recorded on the cover. So.....let's see your lists!
Let me first say that the Tip Count means nothing to me--I think these kinds of teasers on magazine covers are silly. However, I agree with Banks' sentiment:
Banks What really frustrates me is Magazine content gets thinner while they keep producing high $$$$ "SPECIAL" issues. If they spread those articles through the year I'd feel much better about renewing my subscription.
What really frustrates me is Magazine content gets thinner while they keep producing high $$$$ "SPECIAL" issues. If they spread those articles through the year I'd feel much better about renewing my subscription.
I do not know the econimics of the magazine publishing business, and maybe these specials are necessary to keep CTT afloat, but I really wish they just put the material in the magazine. Same goes for "Web Extras": except for videos, keep the material in the magazine. Don't make me go to the website to find it.
I offer these thoughts as constructive criticism, not complaints, from the perspective of someone who has been aboard since the outset (and still has every issue) as well as someone who has been published in CTT. I am an avid supporter and regular subscriber and only want the best for the magazine.
Steve Allen
Frisco, MoPac, and T&P near Rolla, MO
phrankenstign If they are embarassed because there aren't 83 tips, the best thing to do is to come clean and apologize.................................. Thoughout all those years, I've trusted the staff. Now? Hmmmm......
If they are embarassed because there aren't 83 tips, the best thing to do is to come clean and apologize..................................
Thoughout all those years, I've trusted the staff.
Now? Hmmmm......
And the "tips" teases are back... sigh. I thought November's issue was a good sign that this BS was over, but I guess not.
"75 Tips and Ideas" on December cover. (Looks like a nice issue otherwise - the 30 years of memorabe photos seems like a decent trip down memory lane)
BanksThey are either embarresed or to busy writing special issues
If they are embarassed because there aren't 83 tips, the best thing to do is to come clean and apologize.
If they are busy writing special issues, hopefully they give accurate counts of anything they state on the cover.
I've been a loyal reader since 1993, and I even bought all of the back issues. I have every issue from 1987-now.
They are either embarresed or to busy writing special issues
Banks, Proud member of the OTTS TCA 12-67310
I'm disappointed.
The staff has ignored my request. Why?
I'd like to reiterate.
Will the CTT staff please list the 83 tips?
phrankenstign So....... Will the CTT staff please list all 83 tips in the issue? Thanks in advance!
So.......
Will the CTT staff please list all 83 tips in the issue?
Thanks in advance!
Perhaps I read too fast, and I'm glossing over many of the tips without recognizing them for what they are.
If the CTT staff identify those tips I've been missing, it may help me discern more helpful tips in the future than I have been able to detect in the past.
KRM Thinking about it all,,,I don’t really care about the tips. And I would expect someone who has been featured in the magazine to defend CTT. As for the rest of us, we just pay the CTT bills.
I assure you having a feature article written about my layouts affords me no special privileges from Kalmbach publishing. My subscription to CTT costs me the same amount as every other subscriber's does.
I defend the magazine staff because I trust them and appreciate the work they do.
Trains, trains, wonderful trains. The more you get, the more you toot!
It all comes down to whether or not you trust the magazine staff. I do.
phrankenstign What 61 tips did I miss?
What 61 tips did I miss?
I don't know it counts as 61, but the most important tip related to this hobby, at least in my opinion, is to enjoy it.
I'm pretty confident the excellent editorial staff isn't going to say "83", when there are only 22.
Think of all of the layout progress not made by devoting time to trying to make a point not amounting to a hill of beans.
phrankenstign Since nobody else has taken up the challenge, I'd like to officially request from the staff at Classic Toy Trains to list all 83 tips.
Since nobody else has taken up the challenge, I'd like to officially request from the staff at Classic Toy Trains to list all 83 tips.
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