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The 8800 Loco & Tender

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The 8800 Loco & Tender
Posted by jroma1 on Friday, January 8, 2016 8:33 PM

A few weeks ago I purchased a Lionel Locomotive #8800 with Tender from ebay. The seller said it didn't work and that it could be used for parts or restoration ,I submitted an offer and it was accepted. When I received the items I was surprised to see that both parts were in cosmetically good condition. I was even more suprised to see the thing run,a bit sqeaky but it ran. A cleaning and lube improved it's performance.

My dad started in trains in 1934 when he bought our first set,that train and those that followed were in my opinion electro mechanical devices.  As I understand it somewhere in the 1970's Lionel took stock and realized it's time for change,electronic change. They want to go solid state the whistle is made up of transistors caps and resistors and from what I'm told you need a special control that goes in series with one side of the transformer.  I don't have that control and the worse part of it is I wouldn't know where to look for one.

It's been said that Lionel made this locomotive  for three years,1978 to 1981 and  for this reason I had hoped to find a service manual without too much trouble, I was wrong I had an easier time getting technical info for my 262E locomotive. I just got involved in service work and need to acquaint myself with this new technology.  For starters I'd like to restore this 8800 I hope to be able to get technical notes,parts availibilty and any information from those who may have one.

Any feedback will be greatly appreciated

Thank You

John Romano

 

 

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Saturday, January 9, 2016 1:36 PM

Your 8800 does not have a whistle, but does have the electronic Mighty Sound of Steam. The one wire connection between the loco & tender is the wire from the switch which times the "hiss" with the motion of the drivers.

Before testing this feature, disassemble the tender, clean off all remnants of the foam backing from the chassis and the circuit board with a nylon bristle brush, and re-affix the board with a good double sided foam tape.

Connect the wire from the loco to the tender for sound(there should be a factory male/female disconect).

Servicing is the same for any prewar or postwar motor - oil on bearings & axles, grease on gears. The 8800 has just forward & reverse, no neutral.

Here is the Owners Manual for your set.

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Posted by jroma1 on Saturday, January 9, 2016 2:24 PM

Rob:

Thank you for your feedback and especially for the manual.

Regards

John

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Posted by Raykpa on Monday, January 16, 2017 4:29 PM

Did u find any parts diagrams for your 8800 train. Been looking for sometime now. This was bought for me when I was born has some miner damage. Looking for red headlights, bell and I believe it's called e-unit (on top of train switch that controls forward and reverse).

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Tuesday, January 17, 2017 7:21 AM

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Posted by Raykpa on Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:49 AM

I have seen this one before the first thing I noticed different was the running lights are green and on the top of locmotive. My running lights are red and work off the headlight bulb. 

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Posted by lionelsoni on Tuesday, January 17, 2017 1:02 PM

Red classification lights are possible but unusual.  They indicate that the locomotive is running at the rear of the train.  They are equivalent to taillights.

http://trn.trains.com/railroads/abcs-of-railroading/2006/05/locomotive-classification-lights

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Posted by Raykpa on Tuesday, January 17, 2017 2:43 PM

Thanks for the information but trying to find parts diagram for lionel 8800 locomotive.✌️✌✌✌✌✌✌✌✌

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Tuesday, January 17, 2017 2:51 PM

That is the diagram for the 8800, and the parts list, as found in the Lionel Service Supplement 1-9.

Rob

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Posted by Raykpa on Thursday, January 19, 2017 3:53 PM

The first this I need to say is thanks Rob for the help . Order most of my parts but need the rest of part numbers 33-50 are missing. Looking for traction tire and front truck assembly. Thanks again

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Thursday, January 19, 2017 9:03 PM

Raykpa

Looking for traction tire...

Raykpa
Looking for... front truck assembly.

Just Trains has this:

 

Raykpa
...Order most of my parts but need the rest of part numbers 33-50 are missing... 

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Posted by rtraincollector on Friday, January 20, 2017 12:05 AM

While getting the traction tires from The Train tender I would call Jeff and ask him about the front truck part. as sometimes he has them listed a little different and save the shipping from two places. 

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Posted by Raykpa on Monday, January 23, 2017 4:51 PM

I must say thanks again. But this time have a problem with the rear truck assembly.My truck has no bearing caps and has a diffident drawbar( bent different and metal that holds the rear truck axle). Any help with this would be great it's my last parts I need to order. thanks again

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Posted by Raykpa on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 6:15 AM

Think I found it. Looks like it part number 8040-15. Would like to have a complete parts list of the parts if anyone help. Thanks

 

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