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Lionel milk cars
Posted by Toy Trains FTW on Sunday, December 27, 2015 6:25 PM

Hello  I recieved two 3462 lionel milk cars for Christmas and both reportedly worked when they were bought.  I am trying to use them on the new fastrack operating track and neither seem to work.  I double checked that I hooked the track up right but when I try to use the cars all they do is buzz and hum.  One spit cans out once or twice but other than that, nothing.  One of my friends said that it could be the new remote and to get a postwar remote.  Another question is that if I bought a postwar remote, could it be rewired with the wires from the new track piece?  Thanks in advanced!!

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Posted by cwburfle on Monday, December 28, 2015 4:25 AM

If they buzz or hum, then they are getting power. A new track section should not be necessary. What happens if you raise the voltage? Which transformer are you using? They do require a fair amount of power.

Finally, the mechanisms may need servicing (cleaning). A cleaing will often reduce their power requirements.

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Posted by Toy Trains FTW on Monday, December 28, 2015 11:15 AM

cwburfle

If they buzz or hum, then they are getting power. A new track section should not be necessary. What happens if you raise the voltage? Which transformer are you using? They do require a fair amount of power.

Finally, the mechanisms may need servicing (cleaning). A cleaing will often reduce their power requirements.

 

 Hi! Thanks for replying,  I am using them on a fastrack section with full power on my lionel CW80 transformer.  I have opened them up and oiled parts I could reach and they still seem to not work. Would a new remote not help them?

 

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Posted by BigAl 956 on Monday, December 28, 2015 1:25 PM

I'm not big on FasTrack but could the control track section be configured for seperate transformer power? If the milk car were running at full power the cans would be flying out the doors.

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Posted by Toy Trains FTW on Monday, December 28, 2015 1:51 PM

Yes the track section could be hooked up for a seperate transformer power. Yes the milk cans would be flying!Laugh It's so unusual  for both of them to not work, even on full power.

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Posted by cwburfle on Monday, December 28, 2015 2:43 PM

 I have opened them up and oiled parts I could reach and they still seem to not work. Would a new remote not help them?

 

Generally, I recommend against using any oil on a milk car mechanism. Over time the oil attracts dirt, and some oils will get gummy.
When I service a milk car mechanism, I disassemble it as far as possible, and use solvent and a rag to clean the parts. Then metal polish, and reassemble. The pivot points can be given a tiny drop of oil, but that's it.

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Posted by Toy Trains FTW on Monday, December 28, 2015 2:52 PM

Oki will not use much oil on them then.  On one of the cars it has a L-shape slot where a pin moves through when opening and I think this is causing the problem and on the part where the man sits there is a small dimple in the plate that is rubbing on the base of the car causeing it toleave a very dark scratch line and also causing a lot of friction is there a way to fix this?

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Posted by cwburfle on Monday, December 28, 2015 3:04 PM

Clean and polish the parts that rub against each other.

Which milk cars do you have: 3462, 3472, 3482, or 3662?

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Posted by rtraincollector on Monday, December 28, 2015 3:11 PM

he said 2 3462 not sure what he is doing wrong but sounds like he needs to literly take them apart and clean them before he oils them anymore. 

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Posted by Toy Trains FTW on Monday, December 28, 2015 3:18 PM

rtraincollector

he said 2 3462 not sure what he is doing wrong but sounds like he needs to literly take them apart and clean them before he oils them anymore. 

 

 Ok.  I'm not completly sure on how to take them apart though.

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Posted by Texas Pete on Monday, December 28, 2015 4:11 PM

Toy Trains FTW

 Ok.  I'm not completly sure on how to take them apart though.

This should give you some idea: Lionel 3462 Service Manual

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Posted by Toy Trains FTW on Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:00 AM

Thanks Pete! That will help a lot!Yes

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