Nationwidelines Parker being cast on the inside of the cab is correct and that is believed to possibly be the company that cast it for American Flyer. That engine is shown on the upper left corner of page 92 in the most recent Greenberg's guide to American Flyer O gauge (blue cover edition). NWL
Parker being cast on the inside of the cab is correct and that is believed to possibly be the company that cast it for American Flyer.
That engine is shown on the upper left corner of page 92 in the most recent Greenberg's guide to American Flyer O gauge (blue cover edition).
NWL
This is the information from page 92 in the Greenberg Guide that NationWideLines is refering to.
Uncataloged type XVII
Enjoying the World's Greatest Hobby
Northwoods Flyer
The Northwoods Flyer Collection
of
American Flyer Trains
"The Toy For the Boy"
Thanks Mersenne, and I did search thru the many pages on the Flyer thread. Thankfully NWL came through with the needed information, as being identified as a Nation Wide Lines loco. I did not realize that the NWL trains were manufactured solely for J.C. Penney, by American Flyer. It really boils down to who has the needed information with research material, for a lot of the early Prewar trains, with so many different brands. The Prewar material is no where near the available Postwar stuff, so it comes down to relying on members who collect the more obscure stuff, and are knowledgable. Thanks for the reply.
You have two very good, long running, threads on Flyer Prewar right here on this website. Northwoods Flyer has a thread on anything prewar Flyer and Gray Cat has a thread on just the 3/16" Gilbert pre-war. Both contain a great deal of information and could certainly stand in for the references for sale on the web.
NWL, I really appreciate the help in identifying this mystery loco. There is so little available for Prewar trains, no matter which manufacturer you try to search. A majority of the books available, are long out of print, and now showing up at ridiculous prices. Because I am mainly Lionel, all the books I have obtained deal with Lionel only. I just did judicious shopping and got most of mine at reasonable prices. The Prewar era covers a lot of Makers; Ives, Dorfan, AF, Lionel, Hafner as the major players. Then you have the European market to the mix, and you have to chose which Prewar you want to concentrate on.
Again, a very much appreciate thanks.
Jerry
It is an uncataloged engine and there is no known number associated with the engine.
NWL, I really appreciate you searching for the information. I have a small fortune tied up in Lionel Books, and am not really into AF, so I wouldn't have the need for another book. If you don't mind, is there a number associated with this particular loco. Possibly #1087 ?? The loco came in a box with 1087 stamped on it, and Lubrication instructions from American Flyer (red tag), with a #3195 loco shown on one side, Chicago.
teledoc The weird think is the stamping of "PARKER" inside the cab. It would be interesting to know if this loco was shown, or mentioned in Greenberg's Guide to AF.
The weird think is the stamping of "PARKER" inside the cab.
It would be interesting to know if this loco was shown, or mentioned in Greenberg's Guide to AF.
It isn't my locomotive, but someone else needed help in it's identity. It has all the "earmarks" as being early American Flyer, and the motor does look like the same ones used in other steam engines from that time frame. The weird think is the stamping of "PARKER" inside the cab. I remember reading a post here, in the long thread of American Flyer, and someone else mentioned the numbers on either side of the inside cab, but different numbers. One number ended in L the other R, which may indicate right and left....only an assumption. It would be interesting to know if this loco was shown, or mentioned in Greenberg's Guide to AF. The price of that book is way out of my range, and I am primarily Lionel. Thanks for the reply, and I will keep searching for an answer, somewhere.
That is an American Flyer motor. It was not converted from a wind-up to an electric. Rather it is an uncataloged electric steamer that is often found with Nation Wide Line sets that were made by Flyer and sold under the JC Penny store brand "Nation Wide Lines"
These engines are somewhat uncommon.
If you can pop the motor out of the shell, AF or something might be embossed on the frame. Dunno for certain.
This is what the loco looks like, and the motor is definitely American Flyer style. The shell appears to be a converted Clockwork, with the hole in the right side where a Key would have been inserted. Prewar American Flyer is hard to pin down, as the availability of reference is scarce. IF you can identify it, let me know
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