Trains.com

Steps for improving TMCC/Legacy "Track" signal

1483 views
7 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Jelloway Creek, OH - Elv. 1100
  • 7,578 posts
Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Tuesday, April 14, 2015 5:32 PM

Dale M
Yes, sometimes we just get lucky! All those poor people who have very neat, tightly bundled cables are at a disadvantage because of their neatness.
 

Big Smile
 
 

Celebrating 18 years on the CTT Forum. Smile, Wink & Grin

Buckeye Riveter......... OTTS Charter Member, a Roseyville Raider and a member of the CTT Forum since 2004..

Jelloway Creek, OH - ELV 1,100 - Home of the Baltimore, Ohio & Wabash RR

TCA 09-64284

  • Member since
    April 2015
  • 4 posts
Posted by Dale M on Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:27 PM
Indeed, folks have already tried "telephone" wires or even grounding unused overhead catenary wires with good results. Getting the wire up in the air gives a better position that is readily "visible" by the antenna inside the loco or the insulated handrails on a steamer.
  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: Hightstown, NJ
  • 2,886 posts
Posted by anjdevil2 on Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:18 PM

This is just food for thought....if I was a hi-railer and duplicated the telegraph lines that ran along the ROW and those lines were ground wires, would the signal be better? 

This is just a question, I'm sure there would be other ways to run ground wires above the layout board, this is just one that struck me as a workable solution.

I am the monster in your head...And I thought you'd learn by now, It seems you haven't yet.
I am the venom in your skin  --- Breaking Benjamin


  • Member since
    April 2015
  • 4 posts
Posted by Dale M on Tuesday, April 14, 2015 1:52 PM
The spacing reduces the capacitance loading on the Base, and it also increases the open area of the "antenna" formed by the power and earth-ground wires.
  • Member since
    April 2005
  • From: South Carolina
  • 9,713 posts
Posted by rtraincollector on Tuesday, April 14, 2015 1:36 PM

Cool I did it right. I ran all my power lines first then came back and ran all my grounds seperately and my holes threw the wood to route them and support them so there not hanging are at least an 1" apart away from each other. I actually found it easier to run one and then go back and run the other.

Life's hard, even harder if your stupid  John Wayne

http://rtssite.shutterfly.com/

  • Member since
    April 2015
  • 4 posts
Posted by Dale M on Monday, April 13, 2015 8:36 PM
Yes, sometimes we just get lucky! All those poor people who have very neat, tightly bundled cables are at a disadvantage because of their neatness.
  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Jelloway Creek, OH - Elv. 1100
  • 7,578 posts
Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Monday, April 13, 2015 7:22 PM

Dale,

From what I read on your blog, the common ground wire for TMCC/Legacy needs to have some distance between it and the other wires on the layout.  My ground wire is separated by at least 1 1/2" from the other wires and I have not experienced a problem with signal loss except when the track is filthy dirty.  Since I used L-girder, joist construction, there are several (8-10)holes drilled in the joists a 2" centers that hold all my wires. 

Is this a case of a blind squirrel sometimes finding the acorn. Whistling

Thanks for the info.  

Celebrating 18 years on the CTT Forum. Smile, Wink & Grin

Buckeye Riveter......... OTTS Charter Member, a Roseyville Raider and a member of the CTT Forum since 2004..

Jelloway Creek, OH - ELV 1,100 - Home of the Baltimore, Ohio & Wabash RR

TCA 09-64284

  • Member since
    April 2015
  • 4 posts
Steps for improving TMCC/Legacy "Track" signal
Posted by Dale M on Saturday, April 11, 2015 1:16 PM

I recently posted a case study of troubleshooting and improving the TMCC/Legacy track signal on a large club layout.  http://www.trainfacts.com/trainfacts/?p=691  This information may be helpful to others who have signal problems.

Join our Community!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

Search the Community

FREE EMAIL NEWSLETTER

Get the Classic Toy Trains newsletter delivered to your inbox twice a month