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Noisy fastrack.
Posted by Jclasshero on Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:25 PM
Holy cow is Fasttrack LOUD! I am thinking of lining the bottom with insulating foam strips. Has anyone used that method? Or is there a rubber sub-bed for cheap(ish)?
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Posted by rtraincollector on Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:22 PM

Thats why I don't use it but all track has some noise a lot use homosote I think thats the spelling but that's only avaible certain areas others use the pink/blue sheets of insulation you can get at home improvement stores and glue that to your plywood then screw track to that but make sure screw does not reach the board or it will carry the noise down with it. 

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Posted by BigAl 956 on Friday, December 19, 2014 8:43 AM

The expense and noise are the two leading FT complaints. On plywood FT is very noisy, espessially if there is nothing underneath it to absorb the sound.  Try using small cut sheets of fiberglass insulation stuffed into the body of the track. That might help.

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Posted by lion88roar on Friday, December 19, 2014 9:19 AM

Jclass - I've responded to these posts quite a bit. Use the forum search feature - you will find a lot of ideas that work, and ideas that do not.

What I found works best:
1. Homasote/SoundStop/ceiling tiles glued (with contact cement) to the plywood
2. #4 1 to 1.5 inch screws to attach the FasTrack to the barrier (do not screw through the barrier to the plywood)
3. THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT - fill your hollow rolling stock (boxcars/covered hoppers/passenger cars) with non-fiberglass insulation, it is actually the voids in these rolling stock that cause the most noise. Heavier rolling stock does not appear to have this issue.
4. If you have a raised layout/train garden, add some sound deadening material UNDER the plywood and if you have finished the sides with something add sound deadening to the back of that material as well.
5. A white noise generator has shown some level of help in reducing the noise as well.

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Posted by joe323 on Friday, December 19, 2014 12:29 PM

5. A white noise generator has shown some level of help in reducing the noise as well.

What is this?

 

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Posted by lionelsoni on Friday, December 19, 2014 1:54 PM

It makes a hissing sound that is intended to be louder than the unwanted noise, to make it harder to hear.  It doesn't really reduce the unwanted noise at all, but just overwhelms it with what is meant to be a less offensive noise.

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Friday, December 19, 2014 4:23 PM

Rubber ballast by Scenic Express knocks down the noise on MTH Realtrax.  It might help on Lionel Fastrack, too. 

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Posted by Jclasshero on Friday, December 19, 2014 7:32 PM
I am just starting to experiment with Fastrack. Mainly just some loops for the holidays. I do like that it snaps and locks together. Nothing permanent yet. My 671 and 736 have a habit of knocking my tubular apart. Thanks for all the ideas.
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Posted by rtraincollector on Friday, December 19, 2014 8:38 PM

Page 36 of the January 2015 CTT they have the 2015 guide to O guage track you might want to look at that. I personally use Gargraves with Ross switches. But it a personal decision to which you want to use but this may help you.

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Posted by railroaded on Saturday, December 20, 2014 7:58 AM

I don't have FT. What makes it so noisy? Having that plastic base on it made me think it would be quieter. It's surprising to me to hear that it's louder than tube track. 

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Posted by rtraincollector on Saturday, December 20, 2014 9:32 AM

the plastic base acts as a amperfier as its hollow 

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Posted by servoguy on Saturday, December 20, 2014 1:11 PM

rtraincollector

the plastic base acts as a amperfier as its hollow 

 

rtraincollector

the plastic base acts as a amperfier as its hollow 

 

rtraincollector

the plastic base acts as a amperfier as its hollow 

 

My 671 and 736 have a habit of knocking my tubular apart. Thanks for all the ideas.
rtraincollector

You can keep your tubular track together and greatly reduce the resistance of the connections between sections by bending the rails where the pins are installed to splay the pins slightly.  Hold a section of track with the pins facing away from you.  Bend the right hand out side rail to the right where the pin is installed.  Bend the center rail to the left.  Bend the rails so that the tip of the pin is displaced about half of the diameter of the pin.  When you grab the rails with pliers, make sure the jaws of the pliers are about 1/8" from the end of the rail.  I have been doing this for about 7 years, and recently restored to use some 072 curved track that is somewhat corroded and/or rusty.  I measure the joint resistance with a Kelvin connected milliohm meter, and the joint resistance between adjacent sections is nominally between 1.5 and 2.5 milliohms.  This is 0.0015 and 0.0025 ohms.  This eliminates the need for many Lockons.  

 

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Posted by rtraincollector on Saturday, December 20, 2014 3:24 PM

Well with the large learning curve we have with this new forum what actually servoguy said not me by crimping the rails where they join you can stop the seperation from the hollow rails also and increase the cunductivity of the electronic flow (hopefully that is all spelled correct as none of my spell checks work in here no matter what browser I use.) 

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Posted by Jclasshero on Saturday, December 20, 2014 5:36 PM
Thanks Servoguy! I am going to experiment on your idea! Thank you all for the info! Yep rtraincollector loved that article! I am looking for the kline "72 curves in O27 profile. I love the nostalga of the tubular bit the look of the new stuff is impressive.

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