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I'm liking conventional!

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Posted by Firelock76 on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:15 PM

Cleaning the wheels is a VERY good idea.  My Lionel Jersey Transit engine started acting wacky several months ago after being a top-notch runner.  The track was fine, so I looked at the wheels.  WOW!  I had no idea they'd gunk up like that!  Cleaned them thoroughly and afterwards, no problems.

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Posted by 8ntruck on Monday, October 13, 2014 7:37 PM

I'm having similar thoughts myself.  We set up a temperorary 9' by 18' layout in the KATY museum the 2nd Saturday September, and again last Saturday.  Both layouts had passing sidings.  Both locomotives would stop in about the same place on the layout.

The conventional equipment I brought ran well.  My Texas Special passenger train (Legacy) and my CP SD70MAC (TMCC) were acting up.  The headlights were flickering, and they would either stop for no reason, or not respond to the CAB2.  Cleaning the track did not make any difference.  Strangely enough, running the CP backwards seemed to solve the issueQuestion

My next step is to clean the wheels and run them on a simple loop.  I'm figuring it is either a dirt issue or a signal issue.

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Posted by KRM on Sunday, October 12, 2014 4:32 PM

I only run conventional. Most my stuff is post war and the newer stuff is conventional. I don't have anything with command control. I have never seen one even run up close. Live in the sticks or maybe just don't care. I see those new ones running on videos and they sure look neat. I think the think I would like the most about command is the slow speed operation. I have one incline on the layout so even conventional is easy to run.

I plan on looking into the legacy lite system to get my feet wet. But for now I get a great satisfaction in watching my little engineers ages 2 to 9 get the hang of the ZW, LW, & CW-80 controls.  Like Fife said, plenty of remotes in my life. There something about hands on that makes it cool.

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Posted by phillyreading on Sunday, October 12, 2014 3:41 PM
I like running conventional at times. It gets expensive to buy all those command control engines and command control systems. I can buy a few(three or four depending on price) Williams engines for what an engine with command control and command control base sell for.
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Posted by Penny Trains on Saturday, October 11, 2014 7:10 PM

Plate Rail

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You can have it both ways!  I run my standard gauge trains with "Command Control".  I use a 95 rheostat screwed to a small block of wood tethered back to a type K transformer set at 24 volts.  That's the original "walk around throttle"!  Smile, Wink & Grin

Becky

LOL  Don't forget you have directional control with the 95 too.  Screw a couple of sound activation buttons to that block of wood and you'd have Conventional Legacy.

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Conventional-classical-post-modern-modenism eh?  Smile, Wink & Grin

The only sounds I need are the roar of the rails and the satsifyingly ominous hums of those 1920's era transformers!  Big Smile  I have a 60 watt type A, a 100 watt type T and a 150 watt type K humming away in the standard gauge powerhouse and stinking up the joint with ozone.  Cool  Over in the room next door a type R does most of the work.  It has those wonderful red and green bulbs adding to their art deco streamlinedness, but it doesn't scare you a bit the way the early transformers do!  Laugh  Somehow it's just more fun if there's a risk of getting mildly zapped!  Laugh

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Posted by wallyworld on Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:07 AM

Another aspect of running conventional that keeps me in the fold is simply using a throttle lever as in the real deal as well as the Art Deco stylings of my vintage transformers...another is the aspect of running vintage trains with vintage transformers...another is cost. When pulling a heaving consist around a curve in conventional I have to throttle up and then ease back..I never understood why automated speed control was so popular...I guess I am a iconoclast and \ or a Luddite. Of course it's all subjective.....

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Posted by Plate Rail on Friday, October 10, 2014 7:19 PM

Penny Trains

You can have it both ways!  I run my standard gauge trains with "Command Control".  I use a 95 rheostat screwed to a small block of wood tethered back to a type K transformer set at 24 volts.  That's the original "walk around throttle"!  Smile, Wink & Grin

Becky

LOL  Don't forget you have directional control with the 95 too.  Screw a couple of sound activation buttons to that block of wood and you'd have Conventional Legacy.

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Posted by Penny Trains on Friday, October 10, 2014 6:59 PM

You can have it both ways!  I run my standard gauge trains with "Command Control".  I use a 95 rheostat screwed to a small block of wood tethered back to a type K transformer set at 24 volts.  That's the original "walk around throttle"!  Smile, Wink & Grin

Becky

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Posted by Firelock76 on Friday, October 10, 2014 6:43 PM

All I've got space for is the old traditional 4 X 8 layout, so I run conventional as I just don't see the need for anything more elaborate.  Just watching 'em go 'round and 'round is enough, I'm easily amused.

Speaking of conventional, several months ago I got a really good deal on a post-war 2018, and you know I'm having more fun with that old engine than I've had with the new stuff in a long time.  The E-unit buzz, the gear whine, the WHOOSH as it goes past, sheer nostalgia.

Some folks find the E-unit buzz annoying.  I just can't understand why.  To me it's like the wind-up before the pitch, or the double drum roll before a British band begins a march, or the "Prussian Lock" before a German band starts a march.  It's all part of the same great package.

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Posted by fifedog on Friday, October 10, 2014 12:52 PM

I too enjoy throttlin' up, as opposed to walking around with a remote in my hand.  Have a remote for the tv, a remote for the dvr, a remote for the ac, another for the stereo, got remote start for the Dodge, a remote for the ceiling fan...  Wish I could buy a tv with a dial.  Of course, it would have 300 numerals on it and look something the size of the wheel-of -fortune wheel, but at least I'd get more cardio. 

Who doesn't like the sure grip of a ZW or Z4000, or the warm glow of an LW?

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I'm liking conventional!
Posted by Rob412 on Friday, October 10, 2014 9:47 AM
I recently picked up some amp and voltmeter gauges to install on my control panel. While the panel was down for modifications I had a house party where I usually run the trains as everybody likes it and wants to see what's new. I hooked up the track to my ZWs to get them running. No power masters, command bases, ground planes, etc. just like when I was a kid. I was pleasantly surprised how fun it was to sit and operate the throttles like I used to. Yes I don't have features anymore but a 5906 whistle controller and I have the bells and whistles. Anyway that was 2 months ago and haven't put it back yet. I'm actually looking to add legacy and DCS as i have TMCC currently. I will put it back eventually but for now it's nice to have my hand on the throttle. Looking into putting in a bypass switch so I can have conventional as another "control option".

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