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Posted by cheapclassics on Friday, February 28, 2014 10:39 PM

Good evening all,

Possibly the last post for February.   Thank you, Kev, for remembering.  I am not sure when I posted my birthday here, but my sister took me out for lunch, and my wife took me out for dinner.   Work was quiet again, but we are supposed to get more snow this Sunday and Monday.  May stay home Monday.  Will go see grandson's last basketball game of the season tomorrow.  Weather was sunny but windy today.  I hope everyone has a good day.

Keep on training,

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Posted by rtraincollector on Friday, February 28, 2014 8:18 PM

I go by the experience I have learned about Amish I grew up by in Lancaster, PA there real funny who they will or will not work for and I was not really trying to imply it didn't have Amish workers just I doubt it was owned by Amish. Not sure in Ohio or PA anymore as have been away from them in PA but from what I remember they put up with the Mennonite but didn't like them as a whole because of them driving cars and all. They of coarse like them as a whole better than most of the other people but wouldn't say that right out as there to polite when your polite with them. I also know they can ride in a vehicle but can't drive or own one ( Amish) But even back then I saw where it was changing so as I said now not sure of how things are up there in Lancaster but do believe basically PA or OH Amish is basically the same.

but while were talking about this what your take on Amish mafia ( me I think its all bologna its made up for TV) As you said the Bishop decides on all things for the community 

Didn't mean to come across trying to correct you just I doubt that it was owned by Amish I know there out of this world craftsmen I have seen them at work and the stuff they make. Also I see a lot of stuff down here claiming its Amish built that I doubt ( at flea markets)

 

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Friday, February 28, 2014 7:59 PM

rtraincollector

lion88roar

Buckeye Riveter

88...Wayne Dalton is made in Ohio by the Amish in Holmes County. 



I've great concern about their doors though. Of the 3 dealers I have spoken to all have said to steer clear of them for quality reasons. They all used to sell Wayne Dalton, but they dropped them because of the quality issues, not being able to get replacement parts, and them discontinuing parts production for older doors - or manufacturing parts that are compatible with older doors. We'll see because the company coming this afternoon sells WD and Overhead Door...

Just checked my electric bills for the past 2 months and both were estimates... so I guess I better get out to the meter and check it... could be in for a whopper next month!

We too are almost out of burnable wood. Going to have to build a water tight enclosure this year because my blue tarp is riddled with holes and well blue tarp + holes + water = no dry wood.

 

88 not a Amish business here's there statement on there web page

Largely due to its Amish heritage, Holmes County is home to many proud craftspeople who make cabinets, desks, chairs, quilts and a myriad of hand-crafted items. 

 The county has Amish heritage not the business.

 
RT.....
1. I have been past the Wayne Dalton factory near the village of Mt. Hope, Ohio many times.  Mount Hope is an unincorporated community in eastern Salt Creek Township, Holmes County, Ohio, United States. Although it is unincorporated, it has a post office, with the ZIP code of 44660.[1] It lies along State Route 241.  Mrs. Yoder's restaurant , one of the best for Amish cooking is in the village of Mt. Hope.  There is ample horse poop on the roads in and around Mt. Hope, too.
 
This statement is 100% true. Largely due to its Amish heritage, Holmes County is home to many proud craftspeople who make cabinets, desks, chairs, quilts and a myriad of hand-crafted items.
 
They make Wayne Dalton products, too.
 
2. Hundreds of Amish are employed at the plant in Mt. Hope.  They ride their bicycles to work almost year around. (They rode their bicycles to work today and it is bitter cold.) The Amish farms surround the Wayne Dalton plant.  Lehman Hardware has a branch in Mt. Hope. https://www.lehmans.com/?9gtype=search&9gkw=lehman%20hardware&9gad=6504658724.1&9gag=1868051564  The main store for Lehman's is in Kidron, farther north.
 
3. I doubt if Wayne Dalton is owned by the Amish most likely owned by a Mennonite family or two in Holmes County.   The Amish business are smaller and family centered.  Mr. Herberger's Farmers Market is a classic example of an Amish business, north of Charm, Ohio.  The Mennonites and Amish share history. 
 
4. The Amish use power tools, when they belong to someone else.  The Bishop decides the limits.  
 
5. The Amish built about 85 percent of my lake house.  The workmanship is superb  The Amish even made my new boat cover last fall.  People stare at the cabinetry in my house and cannot believe the finish on the doors.  (Laz, would drool.)  The price for the custom cabinets equaled the price of the best at Lowes and HD.
 
6. You have never been to Holms County or Wayne County, Ohio to see these wonderful people so you don't have a clue who does what, where or how..  
 
88....Follow the advice of your dealer.  They will need to fix what you buy. 
 
BTW, if anyone wants a customized train table constructed, my cabinet maker said he would do one for me.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Friday, February 28, 2014 6:16 PM

lion88roar

Buckeye Riveter

88...Wayne Dalton is made in Ohio by the Amish in Holmes County. 



I've great concern about their doors though. Of the 3 dealers I have spoken to all have said to steer clear of them for quality reasons. They all used to sell Wayne Dalton, but they dropped them because of the quality issues, not being able to get replacement parts, and them discontinuing parts production for older doors - or manufacturing parts that are compatible with older doors. We'll see because the company coming this afternoon sells WD and Overhead Door...

Just checked my electric bills for the past 2 months and both were estimates... so I guess I better get out to the meter and check it... could be in for a whopper next month!

We too are almost out of burnable wood. Going to have to build a water tight enclosure this year because my blue tarp is riddled with holes and well blue tarp + holes + water = no dry wood.

88 not a Amish business here's there statement on there web page

Largely due to its Amish heritage, Holmes County is home to many proud craftspeople who make cabinets, desks, chairs, quilts and a myriad of hand-crafted items. 

 The county has Amish heritage not the business.

Life's hard, even harder if your stupid  John Wayne

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Friday, February 28, 2014 6:06 PM

jonadel

Congratulations to Charlie Rose of CBS & NPR for being selected as North Carolinian Of The Year!  He is a model of integrity in his reporting, one of the best. I understand it was a VERY close vote with Chief coming in 2nd, maybe next year!!!!!!!

 
Jon.....Please put on your bifocals. Geeked Yes, the Chief was 2nd.  Second from the bottom of the list of over 5,000,000. Laugh
 
TGIF
 
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Somebody call the Chief tonight at midnight and make sure he starts a new pot.  He has been lax too many times.

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Posted by KRM on Friday, February 28, 2014 12:53 PM

V8 Dennis, Thanks for the information on Barry.  Smile  Good to know! 

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Posted by SPMan on Friday, February 28, 2014 12:42 PM

Good morning all,

Rain, wind, water, mud, we're getting it all here in Glendora but fortunately I'm not affected so far except for the rain and wind.  Got all my sump pumps going and just finished lowering the level in the pool in order to hold some more.  It doesn't have a drain.  Just took my wife to church for one of her obligations up there for an hour and streets had lots of standing water.  Big funeral going on at church too.  What a day for it!  I feel sorry for the mourners.  My dad's funeral was on a day like that.

Hope you guys in the snohio country are holding your own too.  I suppose all this stuff we're getting will turn into snow when it gets back East.  They are getting snow in the mountains here now.

V8, re the mudslides in 1968, I heard 34 people were killed and around 200 homes destroyed.  This time they are a lot more prepared.  Back then, they didn't do anything ahead of time.

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Ray

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Posted by cnw1995 on Friday, February 28, 2014 9:16 AM

Aloha. Another bitter cold day but missing the sun - that always makes me feel better. We're supposed to get snow tonight and tomorrow and Sunday night too. Though the estimates are all over the map. Kev will get more. Hope it's not much as we have theatre tix for Sun. eve. Going to the doc now to hopefully get an OK to go back to the office on Monday. It's been a long time working at home. Hope you feel better Joe. Jon, I sure agree about Ace. Brent, getting a new ac/heater sure makes a huge difference in efficiency - and bills.

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Posted by jonadel on Friday, February 28, 2014 9:12 AM

Congratulations to Charlie Rose of CBS & NPR for being selected as North Carolinian Of The Year!  He is a model of integrity in his reporting, one of the best. I understand it was a VERY close vote with Chief coming in 2nd, maybe next year!!!!!!!

Jon

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Posted by KRM on Friday, February 28, 2014 7:49 AM

I got woke up too early by a she cat screaming outside the window for George to come out. He must not of told her he is fixed.  Pirate

Joe, get well soon,

Ray, prayers against any mudslides.

Brent,  We have Amarr doors on the wife,s garage. Seven years on them now and no problems. I think the shed is Chicago Overhead Doors. I am not fond of them, They sweat a lot and are always cold to the touch.

As long as I am up now I guess I will go to Krogers.

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Posted by Blueberryhill RR on Friday, February 28, 2014 7:30 AM

Good Morning from Blueberryhill.........

Good Morning,  Joe.......Sorry to hear that you are not feeling well. I hope you and your family get well quickly.

It is cold. 5 degrees. Going up to 26 today with sunshine.

Today is an easy day. I have some chores to do and the I will do some reading.  Have lunch and take a nice nap.

Dining car has Cheerios for breakfast.

Buckeye & LAZ........TGIF

Y'all have a great and warm Friday.

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Posted by lion88roar on Friday, February 28, 2014 7:25 AM

Buckeye Riveter

88...Wayne Dalton is made in Ohio by the Amish in Holmes County. 



I've great concern about their doors though. Of the 3 dealers I have spoken to all have said to steer clear of them for quality reasons. They all used to sell Wayne Dalton, but they dropped them because of the quality issues, not being able to get replacement parts, and them discontinuing parts production for older doors - or manufacturing parts that are compatible with older doors. We'll see because the company coming this afternoon sells WD and Overhead Door...

Just checked my electric bills for the past 2 months and both were estimates... so I guess I better get out to the meter and check it... could be in for a whopper next month!

We too are almost out of burnable wood. Going to have to build a water tight enclosure this year because my blue tarp is riddled with holes and well blue tarp + holes + water = no dry wood.

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Posted by fifedog on Friday, February 28, 2014 7:15 AM

Northwoods -  If you step outside, I'm sure you'll have BLUE something...Wilted Flower

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Posted by fifedog on Friday, February 28, 2014 7:12 AM

Chief - That's why I am departing Martinland; too many like-minded idealogs.

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Posted by Northwoods Flyer on Friday, February 28, 2014 7:07 AM

I'm sure it might be colder somewhere in the upper Mid West but it was -23 degrees here just a few hours ago. We set a record for the day.  Its warmed up to -18.  We have 2-3 inches of snow on the way too.

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Posted by ChiefEagles on Friday, February 28, 2014 6:57 AM

Morning.  Cold and to be colder.  Still not like you Yanks are getting.  Feel sorry for all of you like Jon, Kev, Doug M., Mike C, Sir J, Charlie and others in the mid USA.  Now those in Ohizo, they deserve it.  Now the Atlantic guys, feel for you too.

Fife, if the feds and EPA have their way, no more coal.  Hope Europe and China keep it up.

Off to Charlotte Bass Pro Shops until Sunday night.

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Posted by fifedog on Friday, February 28, 2014 5:09 AM

Absolutely bitter cold in the Mid-Atlantic region.  Gotta get all the ugly thoughts on "climate change" out of my head.  Perhaps happy images of long strings of loaded hoppers of coal will brighten my mood.

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Posted by Demay on Friday, February 28, 2014 4:22 AM

Konbanwa and Ohayo Chuck,

I finally caught what the wife and the youngest have so I did not go to work today.  I have spent the vast majority of the day in bed or in the bathroom. Ick!  I'm feeling a bit better now and will hopefully be back to 100% tomorrow.

I hope everyone stays safe with all the upcoming weather concerns.

Sayonara,

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Posted by SPMan on Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:49 PM

Storm update:

I went to the market around noon and discovered that the city is ordering a mandatory evacuation of all the homes above an East/West Street which is about 4 blocks or so North of me due to the danger of mud slides expected from the rain tonight.  There were also a lot of simi trucks with K rails heading for the area.  They claim they are putting out about 10,000 feet of K rail to contain the mud near the base of the hill.  A lot of people up there have been sand bagging all day too.  Looks like a war zone machine gun nest at some of those places.  I also saw several large front loader machines.

It's 10:00PM here now and the rain hasn't started yet.  They say it will come in late tonight and into the morning.

Will let you all know more about it tomorrow.

later,

Ray

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Posted by KRM on Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:35 PM

jonadel

 There are lots of people suffering right now in the midwest because of this horribly cold weather.  We have burned more firewood this winter than we ever have in 25 years, it is not our primary source of heat -- we just totally enjoy the extra warmth in the living room.  This coming weekend just defies description, it's going to be well below zero with snow all three days, yuck.  I don't know how families will pay their heating bills, it's just relentless.

Hurry up spring!

Agree Jon, we have only about three to four hour of fires left of wood dry enough to burn. Saving what we have for when people come by to visit., not for heat anymore. Ran out a month ago. It is not our primary source of heat but it sure helps. This winter sends me back to the winters of 1978-79 & 79& 80.  
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Posted by cheapclassics on Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:39 PM

Good evening all,

It was sunny today, but the wind was blowing so hard that I cut my walk short.  Work was very quiet today.   Watched Arrow on the CW website tonight.  Not much else going on.  I hope everyone has a good day.

Keep on training,

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:13 PM

88...Wayne Dalton is made in Ohio by the Amish in Holmes County. 

Jon.....So it has been cold in Iowa too.  Gee I was told you guys were in the middle of a mild winter.  Smile, Wink & Grin

Chuck.....Hold on we are going to get another blast of the Polar Express on Sunday and Monday. 

TGIFT.....Thank God its Friday Tomorrow

 

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Posted by jonadel on Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:16 PM

ACE hardware stores = WONDERFUL Yes  I don't care if they are a little more expensive because they have people working there that actually know what they are doing plus their tools are TOP notch.

There are lots of people suffering right now in the midwest because of this horribly cold weather.  We have burned more firewood this winter than we ever have in 25 years, it is not our primary source of heat -- we just totally enjoy the extra warmth in the living room.  This coming weekend just defies description, it's going to be well below zero with snow all three days, yuck.  I don't know how families will pay their heating bills, it's just relentless.

Hurry up spring!

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Posted by ChiefEagles on Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:28 PM

Afternoon all.  Long day.  Morning at Human Services Board retreat.  Actually should be spelled BORED!!! Confused  Then came home and took Wifey to Applebee's and then plundering through stores.  ACE opened back up today in Roseyville.  Everyone happy.  Started off cold [mid 20's] but got to high 40's with sun. 

Hit the road tomorrow to Charlotte.  Back Sunday night.  Bass Pro Shops event. 

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Posted by SPMan on Thursday, February 27, 2014 1:30 PM

Good morning all,

We had a moderate amount of rain overnight.  Enough to wet

 

 the ground good and so far no mud slides.  However, a bigger storm is due in tonight with much heavier rain predicted.  I am looking out my front window at an enormous pine tree across the street with a base about 4 feet in diameter.  All the pine needles on this tree which stands about 40 feet high have turned brown.  I'm afraid the rain came too late to save it.

Nice and sunny right now and every detail is visable on the foothills above us.  Took a little walk before breakfast and the air smelled good.

I guess this is our winter this week.  After that we will go back to being a desert.

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Posted by lion88roar on Thursday, February 27, 2014 1:24 PM

DougM - I insulated one exterior wall about 3 years ago and have been waiting to insulate the garage door wall till the garage doors were replaced. When I am sitting in the family room on the sofa (against the garage wall) in the winter it is really cold, so we are hoping that insulating the garage doors and the remaining wall will help with that 'heat sink'!

Did some research on our existing heatpump and air handler... wow! The heatpump is an 8 SEER and the air handler is < 70% efficient! When I lived in Pittsburgh in 1997 I had an old natural gas furnace replaced and had central air installed. That old furnace was < 50% efficient, replaced that with a 90+% efficient furnace and a 13 SEER central air unit. My heating bills dropped nearly 40% in the winter and the central air vs 4 window A/C units dropped my summer electric bill by 50%... I'm hoping the new 13 SEER heat pump and 90+% efficient air handler should reduce my electric bills by 25 - 30%!

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Posted by cnw1995 on Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:38 PM

Aloha. This has been the sunniest February in 8 years but one of the coldest too. 5 degrees now - looks like it'll be far below normal deep into March. So much for meteorological spring arriving on Sat. I guess that just means more time in the basement.

Brent, garage doors are crazy - we paid 'extra' for insulated-interior, steel-faced doors in a previous house and it made a nice difference in the garage temp that was otherwise uninsulated. They were heavy too. And that impacts the type of garage-door opener (and the springs but that's another story that I'm sure you're on top of...)

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Posted by traindood on Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:44 AM

Mornin' fellas and gals;      Do you believe in miracles?     They are actually pouring cement for the new dam today!      It's about 10 degrees now.  With all the fine weather we had during the fall, you'd think ; well never mind.    Hey John;   if the Bronx bums win one game, it'll be one game too many.   Poor Alex.   I wish he could play this year. I will miss him. All the fans will say, if we only had Alex we would have been champs.   Keep plenty of ant acids around when you watch those Bronx bums; your gonna need it!         later.

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Posted by Blueberryhill RR on Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:34 AM

Good Morning from Blueberryhill.........

Good Morning,  Joe......

It is cold and 22. Going up to 26 today with sunshine.

Today is a busy day. I have a few chores to do and a project to work on. Finish by lunch and then a nap.  

Watched the Indians game last night. They lost but it was good to watch baseball again.

Cheerios on the dining car for breakfast.

Y'all have a great Thursday.

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