Warning! New R-T-R with Railsounds are fake?

[lion88roar]

It isn't just the sound files that are different, it is the sound boards as well. You are over simplifying things by implying that only the sound files are different between the sound systems.

RS <> RS2.0 <> RS-RTR <> RS-Legacy <> TS

All the above are fundamentally different sound systems - yes the newer RS versions are BASED off the previous versions, but they are NOT the same.

[David Barker]

anjdevil2

I just put on layaway the NJ Transit Work Train set.  I was wary about the Railsounds R-T-R.  FORTUNATELY, my LHS had a display set up and running, which he allowed me to play with.  I like the sounds, and they are appropriate in my opinion.  I really don't care for the crew talk and squealing brakes.  The sounds are realistic and good enough for me.  I run mostly steam and this will be the first diesel set I've purchased.  Once I get it home, I may have a change of opinion, but for the 10 minutes I had it, it was great.

What should you take away from this?  If you can get your LHS to run it prior to your purchase, that will most likely satisfy you.

 

I certainly miss those days when dealers would display the sets and run them showing all of the features.  However today the buyer MUST read the box, as well as understand what is meant by the printed description.

 

What you understand may not be what you get.

[anjdevil2]

I just put on layaway the NJ Transit Work Train set.  I was wary about the Railsounds R-T-R.  FORTUNATELY, my LHS had a display set up and running, which he allowed me to play with.  I like the sounds, and they are appropriate in my opinion.  I really don't care for the crew talk and squealing brakes.  The sounds are realistic and good enough for me.  I run mostly steam and this will be the first diesel set I've purchased.  Once I get it home, I may have a change of opinion, but for the 10 minutes I had it, it was great.

What should you take away from this?  If you can get your LHS to run it prior to your purchase, that will most likely satisfy you.

[Kooljock1]

Please see my post above.

Jon

[RRaddict]

I am sure that is why Lionel changed the name. It would have been nice though if it was mentioned in the description from the place I ordered it. It seems that cutting the corners on a sound file to save money is a little silly. They could have saved more money by removing the fireman figure. They should have called it RTR Trainsounds then maybe people wouldn't expect much as a lot of people differntiate RS and TS by the quality of the sounds it makes.

Kevin

[SantaFe158]

Keep in mind, there is a difference between "Railsounds" and "Railsounds RTR".  "Railsounds RTR" is close to the Trainsounds system, but apparently has fewer sound effects (which probably explains the name change)

[rtraincollector]

MY PB-1 has rail sounds with squealing brakes if you hit the brake button as the train is going and its in tmcc mode.

[KRM]

SJ is right,

 Railsound does not and as far as I know has not and never had squealing breaks or dialogue. I could be wrong but the TrainSounds do have  squealing breaks and the dialogue. It least on the cars I have from the Alaska 6-26817 box car from 2005 and the 6-16639 B&O car from 1991

[Kooljock1]

The difference between TrainSounds and RailSounds is not the number of crew dialogs or screeching brakes, but rather the ability of the sound system to play multiple layers simultaneously. 

When using TrainSounds, you can have diesel roar, but it will be replaced by the horn or bell.

But with RailSounds, you can play the horn or bell over the diesel roar.

Jon

[RRaddict]

I think you miss understood me. The box says Railsounds but they cheaped out and took the squealing brakes and dialogue feature away.  The TS one I had sounded the same but with squealing breaks and twice the dialogue. It's not a deal breaker for the price I got the set for but the box should say RS lite or something like that. I won this on EBay so I never had the chance to look at the real box just went by the listing.

[sir james I]

Lionel has had Trainsounds and Railsounds for a long time. You gotta read the box before you buy because as you have just found out, there is a big difference.

[RRaddict]

I just purchased the Lionel Santa Fe passenger set with the FT locomotive and while the locomotive runs excellent Lionel is misadvertising the set as Railsounds. I had a locomotive like this before that had train sounds and it was much better than the FT in this set that has "Railsounds". The trainsounds version has more crew dialogue and squealing brakes. The new version has dumped most of the crew dialogue and has ditched the squealing breaks. While this doesn't effect the performance I still feel gypted thinking I got Railsounds I got worse than Trainsounds. Did anyone else get a set like this?