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Rarity of 2419
Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Monday, September 3, 2012 12:43 PM

I have just purchased a Lionel Lines DL&W 2419 work caboose. I did some research on it and learned that it is a rather rare item, but I want to get an exact idea of the rarity so I know just how it compares to the other items in my collection. 

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Posted by KRM on Monday, September 3, 2012 12:50 PM

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Monday, September 3, 2012 12:55 PM

Thank you, but this just raised more questions than it did answers. Why does the tandem-associates site say the car came with a search light, while the postwarlionel site says nothing about it?

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Posted by KRM on Monday, September 3, 2012 2:18 PM

Huh?

Good question. I also looked it up in the greenburg repair manual 1945-1969 and there in nothing about a light on it. See page 310 & 311

I have contected tandem in the past and they always answer my questions. So give them a try.

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Posted by TRAINCAT on Monday, September 3, 2012 3:34 PM

The 2419 is NOT rare at all, and does not have a search light. The 2420 is the rare one, and DOES have the light. The tandem assoc site is wrong and likely shows a cab that has been sustituted for 2419. Even the 6419 which later replaced it does not have a light.

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Posted by martinden on Monday, September 3, 2012 3:38 PM

The 2420 has the searchlight; the 2419 does not. David Doyle (Standard Catalog) gives it a rarity of 3 on a 1-8 scale, meaning they're pretty common. Just BTW, the 6419 and 6420 are the same cars with the magnetic couplers.

That Tandem site is useful, but it has a significant number of errors. Greenberg's big books (not the little price guides) and Doyle are better for accuracy and enumerating variations, though even they show discrepancies and a few outright errors.

Edit: Ooops, Roger beat me to it while I was composing.

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Monday, September 3, 2012 3:38 PM

trainrat

The 2019 is NOT rare at all, and does not have a search lite. .

2019? Where did you get that from? Unless you are talking about the 2419. 

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Posted by TRAINCAT on Monday, September 3, 2012 3:40 PM

typo, sorry-

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Monday, September 3, 2012 3:41 PM

martinden

The 2420 has the searchlight; the 2419 does not. David Doyle (Standard Catalog) gives it a rarity of 3 on a 1-8 scale, meaning they're pretty common. Just BTW, the 6419 and 6420 are the same cars with the magnetic couplers.

That Tandem site is useful, but it has a significant number of errors. Greenberg's big books (not the little price guides) and Doyle are better for accuracy and enumerating variations, though even they show discrepancies and a few outright errors.

Thank you for clearing this up. I know that the items I have aren't very rare, but I am still happy with my little collection, which is all that really matters. 

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Posted by rtraincollector on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 3:34 PM

That is the bottom line as long as your happy thats what counts

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