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Lionel Jr?

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Posted by arkady on Monday, April 9, 2012 8:14 AM

CW Burfle is correct on all counts.

 

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Posted by cwburfle on Monday, April 9, 2012 5:42 AM

Lionel Jr in the context given by the previous posts are terms that have been coined by Lionel enthusiasts, and are not universally used.
The Lionel Corporation actually had a line of trains called "Lionel Junior" in the 1930's. The line evolved into 027.

In all honesty, I had never heard or seen the term Lionel Junior used in the way described above until this thread appeared.

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Sunday, April 8, 2012 5:49 PM

That is really the big jist of it.

The Lehigh Valley Railroad, the Route of the Black Diamond Express, John Wilkes and Maple Leaf.

-Jake, modeling the Barclay, Towanda & Susquehanna.

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Posted by overall on Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:28 AM

Yes, anything called "baby" or Junior" or "scout" will negotiate 027 curves. Some people criticise the sharp curves as being unrealistic. However, the sharp curves also allow you to build a layout in a smaller space.

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Posted by overall on Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:28 AM

You sometimes hear the 2046 called a "baby hudson" too. It can negotiate 027 curves but is somewhat larger than the typical 027 locomotive like the 2036.

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Posted by Steamjohn on Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:13 AM

  So basically they're the O-27, like the Williams Semi-Scale, right? 

   Thanks!

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Posted by 8ntruck on Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:17 PM

Over the years, Lionel has produced locomotives and rolling stock in different sizes.  The larger size, or 'Scale" size are models that are 1:48 scale.  These generally need a larger radius on the curved track to run on.

The smaller, or 'traditional' size pieces are generally less expensive and can run on smaller radius curves found in the less expensive starter sets. 

The Hudson Jr. and Berkshire Jr. locomotives belong to the 'traditional' size group.  The Berkshire in the Polar Express set is a Berkshire Jr.  The recently released 700E Vision Line hudson is a 'scale' sized model.  The 700E Hudson is listed as being 24 3/4" long, while a Hudson Jr. is listed as being 18 3/4" long.

Check out the Lionel web site.  They have a section about scale and gage.

Welcome to the forum.  Great bunch of helpful folks here.

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Lionel Jr?
Posted by Steamjohn on Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:02 PM

  What is meant by the terms Hudson Jr...Berkshire Jr..etc? 

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