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Lionel Canadian Maple Leaf train set: first catalog depiction versus final version.

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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:23 AM

Two more 1950's and 1960's Canadian Pacific trailers on CP flat cars.

Orange and Silver versions.

 

Certainly are enough trailers and flat cars for a full CP Rail intermodal train to be produced with all that is listed, so far.

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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Monday, February 27, 2012 7:14 PM

There are also the CP Express & Transport short trailers and long trailers that could be put on the CP Rail flat cars using exisiting O gauge trailers and cars. The CP Express & Transport logo had Aqua Blue in the backdrop.

 

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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Monday, February 27, 2012 7:02 PM

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cp/cp505236jpa.jpg

This is a photo with an Overnite Express Trailer on a Canadian Pacific Flat Car, also showing Canadian Pacific  Containers on a CP flat car for more cars to put in a CP train set. An all intermodal CP train set is possible.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cp/cp505123jpa.jpg

A former CP Transport Trailer on a CP flat car.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cp/cp505272jpa.jpg

CP Rail red flat car with a Mo-Pac Trailer

These are enough images to use so that the researchers at Lionel can have a jump towards offering a CP Rail intermodal train in O Gauge, that has been conspicous by its absence,

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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Monday, February 27, 2012 6:38 PM

There are some Canadian Pacific O gauge cars that Lionel still has yet ot make:

Canadian Pacific Gondola with covers as shown in this image link.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cp/cp344353amf.jpg

CP Rail Gondola with covers as shown in this image link

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cp/cp344397aga.jpg

Canadian Pacific Flat car with two short trailers

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cp/cpz000312jpa.jpg

Canadian Pacific Flat Car with Canadian Pacific Sea Containers corrugated containers.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cp/cp303534jpa.jpg

They could have done more looking to find attractive items for an all CP train. Now there are some more options for another CP train set.

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Posted by Seayakbill on Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:22 AM

Nice video Andrew, looks like you are a GT RR fan.

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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Friday, February 10, 2012 11:52 PM

Thank you, Bill.

 

I have the MTH CN EXPO '86 Box Car.

watch?v=1YnPqvimaD8&feature=related

You can see the CN Box Car at the end of this video.

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Posted by Seayakbill on Wednesday, February 8, 2012 7:02 AM

Andrew, interesting review of the Lionel Maple Leaf train set. MTH released a CN Expo boxcar a few months ago that would fit in nicely with that set.

 

Back in 86 I attended the Canadian Expo in Vancouver BC. Spent a week at the Expo, it was a great international fair.

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Lionel Canadian Maple Leaf train set: first catalog depiction versus final version.
Posted by Andrew Falconer on Tuesday, February 7, 2012 9:29 PM

Lionel Maple Leaf train set was reviewed in the March 2012 issue of CCT.

The first catalog depiction versus final version was different.

In the first catalog photo the CN EXPO '86 Box Car was correctly depicted as having black bands around the bottom and the top. Then in the final version it was incorrectly changed to brown. I saw and photographed it in person. Then I made copies and I sent them to Steve Saxton or Dan Bigda at Lionel back in the late 1990's. Apparently they found the photo prints of the CN EXPO 86 boxcar at Lionel in New Baltimore or took them to New York. Somehow in China there was a change from Black to Brown for the color.  

In the first catalog they had the Standard O Scale Steel Offset Cupola caboose that was first made in the 1990's by Lionel.Trains Inc.  Now they included the even more finely detailed, standard O scale model of the UP Ca-3 or Ca-4 caboose in CP Rail markings. That is an impressive upgrade for the O Gauge train set. 

What is even more strange is the choice to put two Canadian National Cars in a mainly Canadian Pacific set instead of offering a completely CN Set pulled by a CN GP9 low-nose/GP20 diesel. Operators and Collectors would prefer a purely CN or CP set, not a mix of roads and eras. The two CN graphic schemes are from 1984 for the Box Car and 1992 for the Auto Loader, which is much later than the 1950's and 1960's Canadian Pacific markings. Totally random choices.

 CN EXPO '86 SD40-2W Diesel Loco with a scheme to put on a Lionel SD40 or GP38-2 for an all CN train set.

 

A CN EXPO '86 Vancouver Boxcar that can be offered in an all CN set

 

 

 

CN EXPO 86' Trailer on CN Flat car missed in the research.

In the catalog description it mentions that the train would be travelling down the tracks next to the Mississippi River. From other sources they have said is highly unlikely that any CP diesel would have appeared on the Soo Line before the 1987 buy-up of the Soo Line shares by CP Rail, due to strict US customs issues and inspections. Who ever wrote the description must have thought that the Canadian Pacific always ran trains on the Soo Line alongside the Mississippi River.

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