I have my father's 616 Flying Yankee w/ whistle & a #167S whistle controller. No instructions for the controller. Can you help me with the proper connection of the controller so I can determine if the whistle still works? Anyone have the instruction manual for the 167S they would be willing to "share?"
II have seen reference to some units that have the "smoking" option. Anyone know if the 616 offered that option, and if so, how to determine if mine does?
The engine, passenger cars, and observation car show some wear but all lights work and the engine seems to run just fine. I just determined (at the recent train show here, in Indianapolis) that the train did, in fact have the whistle. I also have several accessories, gateman house (far better condition than any I've seen online), water tower (A1 also), crossing bell (A1), red trestle bridge, and various train station characters.
I set up the train each year at Christmas (for the grandkids - they love it!) and use Department 56 houses, etc. and various animals and trees that were also handed down with the set.
Thanks for your help and I look forward to learning more from the members here.
Welcome to the forums! You have mistaken this one for the Classic Toy Trains forum next door. This forum is for real-scale railroading of old...the revenue kind.
Crandell
Hello, and welcome to the forum!
The 167S controller is easy to hook up. Disconnect one wire from the #1 (left) terminal of the lockon and hook it to one terminal of the controller. Get another wire and hook one end it to the other controller terminal, and the other end back to the lockon. The left button works the whistle, and the right one is used to reverse the engine if the e-unit is engaged.
What transformer are you using?
Larry
Well what took you so long in joining? Welcome. You can get a lot of help on this forum and a bunch of great guys are here.
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Welcome ColtsKurt!
Regards, Roy
Welcome aboard!
Becky
Trains, trains, wonderful trains. The more you get, the more you toot!
Thanks, Larry. I did figure out the connection and tried it out for the first time. The whistle worked... but didn't sound like a whistle. The Reverse action didn't seem to work - properly. I got the engine to go to neutral, then reverse, then neutral, then forward. But it was totally done with the transformer - the switch didn't seem to do anything.
I'm using an American Flyer 4B transformer with circuit breaker.
Back to the whistle. It activates, but growls... no whistling here. Can those be repaired? Economically?
I just need to find a local shop with some guys sitting around that are willing to share...
Here's a youtube of last year's set up. My first effort in many years. This year I did much the same, but added more trees and a couple more Dept. 56 buildings. I have so many more animals, etc. it isn't funny.
http://youtu.be/W74hj3UVsvk
Thanks for looking!
Here's a youtube of last year's set up. My first effort in many years.
Welcome to the forum, nice Christmas layout, thanks for sharing.
Bill T.
The whistle motor more than likely needs to be serviced. The motor needs to have the brushplate removed, the commutator, brushes and brushplate cleaned, and the armature bearings oiled. That should get the whistle to blow. Try it with the loco in neutral, and the power turned up after you service it.
Once you service the whistle motor, do the same thing to the loco motor for better performance. Also oil the axle bearings on the loco and all cars.
Larry, I certainly appreciate your knowledge and ability to make those repairs seem simple and quick.
Moreso than that, I appreciate that you seem to be confident that I could do the job! No doubt after a good amount of frustration, I could. But I'll leave repairs and restoration to those that do it daily. This set is too important to me to just get out the Craftsman tools and go for it!
I hope I find someone fairly local that can make that whistle blow... THAT could be MY contribution to the legacy of the set. No one in the family has ever heard the whistle blow. They don't even realize there is a whistle.
You need to have confidence in yourself to tackle something you have never done before, even if it is an heirloom. Search the internet, or call Lionel and find a service center near you. Find out if they have an inexpensive old steam locomotive with whistle tender for sale, and purchase it. Now you can take that unit apart, and teach yourself how these trains work, and how to service them. Service diagrams for most Lionel trains are available free, online. When you are confident in repairing that unit, then you can tackle your own locomotive. Advice is freely given here by many technicians in various aspects of the hobby. Ask away.
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