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Re-gluing and such...
Posted by alton6 on Friday, August 13, 2004 10:03 PM
What is an appropriate glue to use for repairing toy train boxes--regular Elmers white glue, or....?

And, what's a durable adhesive for re-sticking the celophane windows to the cardboard?

Thanks.

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Posted by choochin3 on Friday, August 13, 2004 10:32 PM
I have a few boxes that need fixin' too! Anyone have any ideas?Thanx
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Posted by ben10ben on Friday, August 13, 2004 10:34 PM
Good old elmers is my preference
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 14, 2004 10:07 AM
Carpenters glue is better.
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Posted by alton6 on Saturday, August 14, 2004 10:29 AM
Does anyone know the technical difference between white (is it milk based?) glue and yellow carpenters glue? Maybe the particular chemistry doesn't matter here.
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Posted by Dr. John on Saturday, August 14, 2004 9:24 PM
White glue is more susceptible to weakening in the presence of moisture or high humidity. Yellow carpenters glue won't turn loose with moisture. As to the chemistry, i'm not sure.
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Posted by alton6 on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:18 AM
Thanks for the input, guys. Anyone have any thoughts on how to restick the window celophane to the box?

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Posted by ben10ben on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 6:04 AM
I use Elmer's on the windows as well.

I do not like to use yellow(wood) glue to glue boxes back together, as it is far too thick. Yellow glue can make a very neat repair, while yellow glue will leave a big glob of glue where you do it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:18 AM
The yellow glue is the best.
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Posted by ben10ben on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 3:49 PM
And tell me, Hans Zimmer\Sandy Jorgenson\Bill Conner\Joe Polska\Frankie CSX\M.DONALDSON, just how many postwar boxes have you repaired?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 4:42 PM
For reataching the cellophane, I would use Scotch tape. It sounds simple, but in my experience, it gets the job done and lasts for a long, long time. I have used it to make minor repairs to some old train books and it seems to work well. I'm not an expert though, so I'm not sure if the adhesive on the tape is safe to use with items which one is trying to preserve. It does yellow some over time, if that is any concern.

I hope I have helped,
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 4:58 PM
I've read and been told that gluing or taping pre and postwar boxes lessens the value, at least in the eyes of the diehard collectors. I know this is true for Plasticville collectors. I wouldn't be concerned about the newer items.

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Posted by alton6 on Friday, August 20, 2004 10:00 AM
I wonder what was originally used. Years ago we often used a gooey substance called musillage--or some such spelling--to adhere things. If memory serves, it was used for sticking cellophane also. Is this stuff still available?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 20, 2004 10:24 AM
You can still get mucilage if you really want it:

http://www.currys.com/adhesives/prodinfo1.asp?SubcatID=3013&catID=23

If you don't want to use white or yellow carpenters glue, you can use hot melt glue. This stuff works great on cardboard. Rubber cement used in "contact" mode can also be used to re-attach cellophane. Light coat on cardboard and on cellophane, allow to dry, press in place.
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Posted by alton6 on Friday, August 20, 2004 1:19 PM
chuckn....Mostly, I'm wondering what others have used, and with what success. It would be nice to use adhesives for cardboard and for re-attaching the plastic windows that are both durable and don't violate the integrity of the box very much. I have not tried hot glue. Maybe, that is what is used by manufacturers nowadays. Thanks for the input.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 10:02 PM
for cellofane rubber glue works great

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