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Lionel Type R 110 Watt Trainmaster transformer

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Lionel Type R 110 Watt Trainmaster transformer
Posted by Bobby B on Saturday, July 9, 2011 8:17 AM

I am starting a reconditioning of my childhood 1947 vintage Lionel train.  I have a Type R 110 watt Trainmaster transformer.  Unfortunately I did not keep any manuals and I have no wiring instructions for hookup to the track and the controller.  Any help would be appreciated.

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Posted by lionelsoni on Saturday, July 9, 2011 10:16 AM

There are various ways to connect it; but the two most likely are:

Use A as the common, that is, connected to the outside rails.  Then you will have independently variable voltages at C and F of 14-24 volts.  This is rather high for most locomotives; so you probably won't want to do it this way.  But, if you do, you will get fixed voltages of 8 volts at B, 14 volts at D, and 24 volts at E, all relative to A.

Use B as the common.  Then the variable voltages at C and F will be 6-16 volts; and the fixed voltages will be 8 at A, 6 at D, and 16 at E, all relative to B.

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Posted by gunrunnerjohn on Saturday, July 9, 2011 10:38 AM

That transformer is a bit of an "odd duck", I looked at the transformer schematic on Olsen's database, but I've never had one, so I didn't know for sure exactly how you'd wire it.

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Posted by lionelsoni on Saturday, July 9, 2011 11:52 AM

Since you mention Olsen's, here is what they've got:  http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/searchcd31.htm?itm=659 .  Actually, it's not even a schematic, but rather a wiring diagram.  The information I posted above, I gleaned from this:  http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/searchcd31.htm?itm=630 .

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Posted by Bobby B on Sunday, July 10, 2011 6:48 AM

Thanks for your help.  This will get me started.

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Posted by UUU DM on Monday, December 5, 2011 4:29 PM

hi , You seem to have the most info on this transformer.

I recieved one from my moms attic, and am trying to make it go for my son.

I have it connected as 2 to a and 1 to c, and it works kinds.

the train goes very fast, and you cannot control the speed or stop the train.

My thinking is the trans former ( many moons old) pot is shot, or the engine (70's) is not recieving control.

The engine is lionel with no series markings.

 

help please , my kids is young and all over me

 

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Posted by TrainLarry on Monday, December 5, 2011 6:19 PM

   It sounds like the contact arm has become loose on the shaft and is not turning with the handle.         See here for repair: http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/cd/transfmr%5Cps4.pdf

  It is possible the voltage control shaft may need to be replaced if the casting has started to break and will no longer hold the contact arm in place.

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Posted by nickaix on Monday, December 5, 2011 10:10 PM

Try wiring to B and C rather than to A and C.

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Posted by O-GaugeOscar on Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:04 PM

Bobby B,

I have a Type R transformer powering my Christmas tree layout (three trains plus track accessories).  The Type R has worked great for years, even if only seasonally.

If possible, I would suggest finding a copy of Greenberg's Repair and Operating Manual for Lionel Trains 1945 - 1969.   (You can probably find a good used copy on Amazon.com at a reasonable price.  BTW, it's a very handy manual to own.)  Page 575 has a pictorial wiring diagram of the transformer while page 536 (lower left corner of table) indicates the voltages for various circuits if using A, B or D as the "common" or "ground" post.  

 

 

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Posted by martinden on Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:19 PM

Olsen's library has both of those pages.

Diagram of R wiring: http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/cd/transfmr/psr.pdf

Chart of common grounds: http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/cd/transfmr/ps6.pdf

(But I agree completely with Oscar's advice that you -- and everyone with postwar trains -- get a copy of the Greenberg manual. It reprints many of the Lionel Service Manual pages, and it has quite a few that Olsen's does not include in their library.)

Edit: Which I belately notice Bob Nelson (lionsoni) has already mentioned.

Martin

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