Lilbudger HI ADCX Rob, I was wondering if you can give me some guidance. I came across a post you made on the forum, while searching Google for the following: "lionel assembly 8021-100" this forum was the only hit for the search, as i was trying to find more information on this Motor Truck, Alco 2 position. This is for my Lionel Diesel, Santa Fe 8351, (6-8351). I got the instruction for the diesel and 8021-100 motor truck from lionel. I had this as a kid and wanted to clean it to put in service for my son, when i realized that one of the rubber tires is missing on the gear wheel. This is where i need the help. The post you made was entitled -Re: Lionel Liberty Special, ADCX Rob replied on 02-11-2009 5:40 PM. Here is the hyperlink - yours is about half way down. http://cs.trains.com/trccs/forums/p/147714/1638558.aspx You related, Ditto on the above comments, but this is not as "cheapie" of an Alco like you might be used to with 1960's style production... it does have die-cast power truck side frames, & dual axle drive with 2 traction tires. The whole power truck assembly is far superior to the old 221/222/1055/1065 type units. It actually does run quite well and pulls it's consist nicely. First, it seems like you know a lot about the trains. second, the part of your post which i found helpful was - "does have die-cast power truck side frames, & dual axle drive with 2 traction tires." Although you might not be referring to the motor truck i have, the description is the same- does have die-cast power truck side frames, & dual axle drive with 2 traction tires - as the one i have. I began dis-assembly / cleaning, (a lot of old carpet fibers tied up in those gears.) The problem that i have is removing the "top Plate assembly, (no model listed-just says sold separately)", just after i remove the "armature, 8010-125." The top plate appears to be sort of "stamped onto to the "motor truck" (frame 8021-106). and onto the "truck Sides 8010-110." When i say stamped - it appears that tabs from the motor truck and truck side protrude up through holes in the top plate assembly, and were stamped down creating a type of friction lock, (sort of like the function of a rivet, but not protruding around the top plate assembly just very tight.) Taking this apart seems like the only way to break down the lower side of the motor truck to get at and replace the rubber tire. I pried between the Truck side and the top plate assembly gingerly near one of the tabs, but it was not forgiving. I paused in search of some online assistance, through various keyword searches, and i have come up with your post, moreover you contributed to the forums recently. If you can offer any assistance or guidance on how i can get this assembly apart, or tell me that I am going about it wrong, i would be much appreciative. Sorry for the long request. Craig
HI ADCX Rob,
I was wondering if you can give me some guidance.
I came across a post you made on the forum, while searching Google for the following: "lionel assembly 8021-100" this forum was the only hit for the search, as i was trying to find more information on this Motor Truck, Alco 2 position. This is for my Lionel Diesel, Santa Fe 8351, (6-8351). I got the instruction for the diesel and 8021-100 motor truck from lionel. I had this as a kid and wanted to clean it to put in service for my son, when i realized that one of the rubber tires is missing on the gear wheel. This is where i need the help.
The post you made was entitled -Re: Lionel Liberty Special, ADCX Rob replied on 02-11-2009 5:40 PM. Here is the hyperlink - yours is about half way down. http://cs.trains.com/trccs/forums/p/147714/1638558.aspx
You related, Ditto on the above comments, but this is not as "cheapie" of an Alco like you might be used to with 1960's style production... it does have die-cast power truck side frames, & dual axle drive with 2 traction tires. The whole power truck assembly is far superior to the old 221/222/1055/1065 type units. It actually does run quite well and pulls it's consist nicely.
First, it seems like you know a lot about the trains. second, the part of your post which i found helpful was - "does have die-cast power truck side frames, & dual axle drive with 2 traction tires."
Although you might not be referring to the motor truck i have, the description is the same- does have die-cast power truck side frames, & dual axle drive with 2 traction tires - as the one i have.
I began dis-assembly / cleaning, (a lot of old carpet fibers tied up in those gears.) The problem that i have is removing the "top Plate assembly, (no model listed-just says sold separately)", just after i remove the "armature, 8010-125."
The top plate appears to be sort of "stamped onto to the "motor truck" (frame 8021-106). and onto the "truck Sides 8010-110." When i say stamped - it appears that tabs from the motor truck and truck side protrude up through holes in the top plate assembly, and were stamped down creating a type of friction lock, (sort of like the function of a rivet, but not protruding around the top plate assembly just very tight.) Taking this apart seems like the only way to break down the lower side of the motor truck to get at and replace the rubber tire.
I pried between the Truck side and the top plate assembly gingerly near one of the tabs, but it was not forgiving. I paused in search of some online assistance, through various keyword searches, and i have come up with your post, moreover you contributed to the forums recently.
If you can offer any assistance or guidance on how i can get this assembly apart, or tell me that I am going about it wrong, i would be much appreciative.
Sorry for the long request.
Craig
For normal service & maintenance, there is no need to disassemble to this degree. Removing the armature will give you access to all lubrication points.
Rob
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