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Posted by KRM on Tuesday, May 3, 2011 4:45 PM

Just started looking at the instruction sheets I got with the engine and there seems to be a few.Why I got 2 with it I have no idea but I looked at them and they had the same part # so I figured someone made a mistake and packed 2 instead of 1.The one I was first looking at was 71-8205-250 looking further it is RevA. Seem this one has the warning light switch and was from 1990 Dash 8-40 B Looking at the other one it is from 1992 and is Rev B for the Dash 8-40C. It has the horn switch so that makes sense and my engine is built okay. The link RT sent is from 1994 and is RevD Lesson learned. READ THE FINE PRINT.

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Posted by DennisB-1 on Tuesday, May 3, 2011 7:07 AM

Is there an on/off switch for the horn as shown in the linked document for the engine?

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Posted by KRM on Friday, April 29, 2011 8:51 AM

Thanks dougdagrump!

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Posted by KRM on Friday, April 29, 2011 8:51 AM

Okay,

Martin I reversed the wires as you suggested to no avail. I then disconnected the ground wires to the 1122E switches that according to the Greenburg repair manual are wired correct but that also did not produce any horn activation. F-N-R is fine but horn will not work although the lights in the cab brighten when the button is pushed as it does when I activate the horn on my ALCO 218. Also the flashing light on the cab will not shut off with the switch.

My engine is Catalog # 6-18207 box # 6-18689

I think I will have my daughter bring out JR’s CW-80 transformer next time they come and try it. I had the same issue with his engine from the Pennsylvania Flyer set # 6-30018 with Loco # 1645 that I got him for X-mass. His whistle tender would not work on the RW transformer but worked fine on the CW-80?????

Not sure what to do next. Heck when we were kids we just hooked wires up and everything seemed to work. No wonder I was hesitant to go modern. J

 Just old school I guess.  But figured I could learn to use computers I could handle a train.

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Posted by dougdagrump on Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:58 PM

Here's a link to the documentation for a RW transformer:

http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/cd/transfmr/ps6.pdf 

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Posted by martinden on Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:39 PM

Track is running off of B & U with B to center and U to outer rail and this is the recommended way to wire it.

Reverse the connections. On an RW (and other single-train transformers) U should go to the center rail, and A or B to the outside rail. This is likely to solve your problem, but there are various other possible problems. Try this first.

Martin

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Posted by KRM on Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:58 PM

Okay let me try to answer.

RT,

I have the service paper it came with the engine. The part number of the engine is 6-18207. Built in 1992. Not so new but new to me.

Thanks,

BF,

"You have two wires running from your transformer to the track, one connected to the center rail and the other connected to an outside rail. Reverse these connections. I would bench-test it on about four pieces of straight track, because I don't know what else may be running off your RW. Please advise whether this works."

Yes I have two wires running from the transformer to the track, one connected to the center rail and the other connected to an outside rail. Track is running off of B & U with B to center and U to outer rail and this is the recommended way to wire it. Nothing else running off of the transformer but 2 remote control 1122E non-derailing switches and the transformer only has a whistle button. I will try reversing tomorrow. I also do have a TVS diode connected across your "hot" and "common" terminals, or my track lock-on.

Thanks,

Dougdagrump,

"You mite have to locate a "Sound Activation Button", Lionel #610-5906-001. Believe that they are no longer being produced so it may not be easily found"

Never heard of one of those but I will look into this if the above does not work. Don’t think it will because if I recall I tried it with JR’s train this x-mass.

Thanks to all of you.

Kevin

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Posted by dougdagrump on Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:50 PM

You mite have to locate a "Sound Activation Button", Lionel #610-5906-001. Believe that they are no longer being produced so it may not be easily found.

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Posted by bfskinner on Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:41 PM

You have two wires running from your transformer to the track, one connected to the center rail and the other connected to an outside rail. Reverse these connections. I would bench-test it on about four pieces of straight track,  because I don't know what else may  be running off your RW. Please advise whether this works.

Also, do you have at least one TVS diode connected across your "hot" and "common" terminals, or your track lock-on? If not, you should. Powering modern equipment (with solid-state components) with post-war transformers can be hazardous to your equipment.

Also I would not rely on the circuit-breaker in your old transformer unless it has been recently tested. I'd use a fuse or relatively fast-acting circuit breaker. There has been much discussion of this hereabouts.  Visit the "Search our Community" box on the right-hand side of the page. See especially the posts by Bob "lionelsoni" Nelson and ADCX Rob.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:11 PM

here is a link to the manual now if you have a box witht it it should have a 6-xxxxx number and that will help a lot more

http://www.lionel.com/media/servicedocuments/71-8205-250.pdf

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Posted by KRM on Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:19 PM

I am a Lionel post-war guy but have just got my first modern era engine. NORFOLK SOUTHERN DASH 8-40C  DIESEL # 8689 and I love it. Hope I did well for $125.00. It is a monster compaird to all of my old O27 stuff. 

What do I need to make the horn work with my Lionel RW TrainMaster Train Transformer 1945-1954? I noticed when I got my grandson a new train for Xmas it ‘s horn would not work unless it was hooked to his new CW80 watt transformer. Also is my transformer why the running lights will not shut off with the switch on the bottom?

Stuck in the past looking at the future.

Thanks,

Kevin

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