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This is a toy train train forum
Posted by sir james I on Monday, March 7, 2011 9:39 AM

It is intended to be for all toy train lovers regardless of size or gauge. So why do we have to endure the insults of someone who thinks his or her likes should be the same as their's. Your thought's:

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Posted by Bob Keller on Monday, March 7, 2011 9:46 AM

You may see the thread has vanished and he received a suggestion from me that he clean his act up, or move elsewhere in cyberspace.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Monday, March 7, 2011 10:02 AM

to me it just shows there immaturity. As I have said over and over I come here to learn from others and share my knowledge with others to help the hobby grow. To me weather its n scale or G scale we can learn from each other. And to trash one gauge because you don't like it or think yours is Superior is pure nonsense.

Another problem I have heard is this is an O gauge forum not true this is mainly an S,O, and standard gauge but we welcome ( well most of us ) all gauges. We will try steering someone to another forum if we feel they can get better help for the problem as that forum has more folks that are more into there gauge ( model railroaded for n & HO, garden Railway for G) but we do invite all to join us.

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Posted by LittleTommy on Monday, March 7, 2011 1:29 PM

I strongly agree that this forum functions best when everything is kept civil and nobody tries to push someone's "buttons".

I will point out, however, that when I tried to say  that Lou Palumbo's Article in CTT some months ago entitled "Flyer Guys Are Different" or something like that,  was devisive and that this type of article should not be printed in CTT, I was roundly criticised for being too thin skinned.

I stand by my original point, however.  It is best to not go there on this forum.  There are plenty of places in cyberspace where one can "vent", and one is free to go there if you like to stir things up.

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Posted by sir james I on Monday, March 7, 2011 1:51 PM

Everyone should have a right to an opinion, how ever there was a weekend thread were this person not only stepped over the line he did it declaring war.

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Posted by scrambler81 on Monday, March 7, 2011 2:50 PM

Wow! I check in here all the time, but I completely missed it. Sadly, that type of behavior seems to be everywhere, and I just don't understand it. I also collect diecast, and I've seen vicious arguments on the hobby board. Of course, there are always guys at train shows that need to rip anything that isn't to their tastes. Heck, try having a civil conversation about football. It can't be done. Why?

 I really would hate to live in a world where everyone liked the same things I do. Imagine how dull that would be. Not to mention how hard it would be to find what you want, since we'd all be chasing the same things. I don't know nearly as much about trains as most folks on here, but by reading different ideas and perspectives, I get to form my own opinions of what my railroad should look like. Ain't that the point?

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Posted by Train-O on Monday, March 7, 2011 9:09 PM

This is a forum for us to collectively have fun, regardless of gauge size.

We share experiences, dreams and desires.

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Posted by nickaix on Monday, March 7, 2011 9:49 PM

I agree. I for one enjoy learning about American Flyer, even though I don't collect it.  And I have found Timboy's layout thread interesting and inspiring!

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Posted by Penny Trains on Monday, March 7, 2011 10:00 PM

Net forums are a relatively new phenomenon.  For the first time in the history of man one person's opinion has the ability to not only be seen by the entire world simultaneously, but to be responded to just as quickly.  As it currently stands, the nets are relatively unregulated and many of us would like to keep it that way.  It's going to be up to us as users to decide what kind of world it will be.  Unless we want a giant electronic "big brother" constantly scanning and regulating our activities, netciety will have to decide what's right on it's own.  And that's going to take time.  The solution that's worked best so far has been to have the forums regulated by the people and/or organizations that provide them.  I for one like it that way and think that's all the regulating the net needs.

My personal perspective says that net forums are gathering places for people of a like-mind to discuss a topic of mutual interest.  But that doesn't mean that it's the one and only topic of discussion.  I'm not saying we should have threads on the CTT site about Barbie dolls, washing machines, 1967 Mustangs or what have you.  But rather that we should support one another when someone wants to talk about something that may not neccessarily be related to toy trains.  Or our favorite types and gauges.

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Posted by Brutus on Monday, March 7, 2011 10:40 PM

I LOVE this thread!  Very good!

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Posted by mersenne6 on Tuesday, March 8, 2011 7:13 AM

  I think the other thing that needs to be kept in mind is the sample.  If you take the time to read contributions to the various threads on this forum and on other forums and you actually make it a point to bean count pleasant vs. unpleasant you can quickly see that pleasant outposts unpleasant by a very large margin. 

  The problem with the situation is that of sampling bias - if it bleeds it leads - in other words the exceptional is far more likely to be remembered that the ordinary.  I didn't see the thread in question but to put it in perspective there are 120 threads on the first three pages of this forum and that thread is the only one that was blocked/obliterated.  1 out of 120 isn't even 1% and that, as any statistician will tell you, is not significant by anyone's measure.

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Posted by sir james I on Tuesday, March 8, 2011 8:38 AM

I love trains, all brands, all sizes, toy train on the floor, I'll stop and look at it. We all have opinions and I have jumped into the fire on more than several occasion's. And while this person's insulting attack's are allowed on other forums I was happy to see that it was removed from this one.

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Posted by RockIsland52 on Tuesday, March 8, 2011 8:55 AM

Amen, SJ..................

I compare all of this to differences of opinion over preference of the color of a car one chooses.  It is a senseless and pointless exchange. 

Why should someone else care about what I think, like. or enjoy?  And to turn an exchange of opinions into something ugly is a sign of disrespect toward all who read or choose to participate in this forum.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 8, 2011 9:14 AM

SJ,

       Well said.

I didn't catch whatever happened, but I feel I know the who and what part.  And from someone who collects PW Lionel, PW Gilbert, and modern MTH, I found the "Flyer is great, everyone who enjoys any other brand is something less" comments that were made in the past extremely offensive.  I understand that such things could be taken jokingly, but there is a point where it gets insulting.

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Posted by Seayakbill on Tuesday, March 8, 2011 9:55 AM

I also missed the flaming. Guess some folks just want to read what they are only interested in. Which is A-OK, just move on to the next posting. 

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Posted by servoguy on Tuesday, March 8, 2011 1:01 PM

IMHO, the way to control this sort of thing is to prohibit criticism.  It has no place on this forum.  There are a wide variety of things that the people on this forum do with their trains, and no one has the right to tell someone that what they are doing is stupid or wrong.  There are things that people do that I can admire (Timboy's large AF layout, for example) that I wouldn't do, but I can certainly admire a job well done.  I like to play toy trains.  I am not a model railroader, and my layouts don't model the real world.  But I enjoy them and that is all that counts for me.  

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Posted by Gray Cat on Tuesday, March 8, 2011 3:01 PM

Trains are like Beer, there aren't any bad ones just some are better than others..

I love em all..

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Posted by stebbycentral on Tuesday, March 8, 2011 6:07 PM

Gray Cat

Trains are like Beer, there aren't any bad ones just some are better than others..

I love em all..

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Posted by balidas on Tuesday, March 8, 2011 8:09 PM

I really don't know what to say. I read the exchange, a bit bewildered as to what to think, hoping it was all in jest. I did notice a short exchange some time back in another thread and this is the result.

There is more then enough strife in our world today, we don't need it here.

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Posted by Bob Keller on Wednesday, March 9, 2011 7:41 AM

Amen.

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Posted by Train-O on Wednesday, March 9, 2011 9:49 AM

GET ON WITH THE FUN!!!!!!

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