Quick question...Virginian FM Trainmaster colors?

[Deputy]

I know this thread is kinda old, but just an update:

I just purchased an MTH Virginian FM Trainmaster in the correct black/yellow paint scheme. AND, I was able to locate the correct red/white Virginain caboose in scale size from Weaver. So I bought that too. The hard part now is getting some scale coal hoppers. The ones I have found from Lionel and MTH are a bit pricey.

Dep

 

Pictures:

 

[Train-O]

Thank you Dep and Bob,

I'll take a look at the Lackawanna engine by Williams, now I know what to do totransmit the link.

Merry Christmas, Happy, Healthy New Year Everyone,

Ralph

[lionelsoni]

Ralph, just hit "Enter" right after you paste the link into your post.  It should change color and become active.

[Deputy]

Ralph: You can actually find that loco on E-bay for less. Here's one:

 

 http://cgi.ebay.com/WILLIAMS-FM-104-LACKAWANNA-FM-TRAINMASTER-DIESEL-MIB-/130457428350?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item1e5fde617e

[Train-O]

Thanks Bob,

I have to learn to get the link included with the post.
I'll have to ask my Son.

If, you notice the ad. includes the reference of' 'GM.'
Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy New Year,

Ralph 

[lionelsoni]

http://www.trainz.com/p-177002-williams-21198-gm-demo-fm-trainmaster-diesel-locomotive.aspx

 

[Train-O]

Dep,

Here's a Trainz.com ad., I'm sorry I can't give you the link.

I'm just plain ole' computer stupid!

http://www.trainz.com/p-177002-williams-21198-gm-demo-fm-trainmaster-diesel-locomotive.aspx

Just run your mouse with a left click, over the above link and copy, then delete the present entry in your address bar and paste this link in, that I gave you.

Ralph

[Train-O]

Dep,

Lionel and M.T.H., if you want either of those brands, both sell power and Non-power with black roofs.

I have the Lionel power and non-power versions and I'm happy with them and their prototypical paint schemes, but this has the fancy T.M.C.C., RailSounds 5.0 and all of the other expensive goodies, which are delicate and would be costly in repairs.

Ralph 

 

[Deputy]

Ralph: I was actualy thinking about buying the maroon top Williams Lackawanna and spray painting the roof flat black. I think that would give it a prototypical paint scheme and it would be cheap to do.

[Train-O]

I mentioned this before and I'm going to mention it again.

The three Post War Lionel F.M. T.M. engines that I believe are beautiful are the Grey and Maroon, with Maroon roof Lackawanna;  The Blue and Orange C. of N.J. and the Blue and Yellow Virginian.

BUT---- ALL THREE DO NOT HAVE PROTOTYPICAL COLOR PAINT SCHEMES!!!!!

Ralph

[Train-O]

My luck is when I have the money to buy what I want, the stores just happen to be out of stock.
Also, I see something I like, but it's four, or more, years old, my local shops are out of it, I have to search and the shop which has it is 800 miles, or more, away and the item is of a railroad near me!

There, has to be a clearing house, of sorts, who buys-up these older items, like some little businesses do and you find out about them in want ads.
This way we might find what we want quickly and hassle free.

There's some profit in it, like the stores who buy fire damaged goods, to resell at a discounted price, of course the items we want have to be in good shape.

I believe, the manufacturers don't buy, or take back the older items, probably because it's not profitable and also, they don't have available room.

Ralph 

[Deputy]

Ralph: Did that first thing. That's where I saw the (2) red cabooses. They had no links and a Google search turned up nothing.

[Train-O]

Dep,

Go on line to M.T.H. and inform them  of the item that you want.
They have a computer link system to locate their items, in one, or a few hobby shops and the store may have it.
M.T.H. will give you the info. of the store, or stores.

I was able to get one of M.T.H's. D.L.&W./L. 'Phoebe Snow' boxcars, that way.

Good Luck,

Merry Christmas and a Healthy, Happy New Year,

Ralph 

[Deputy]

Well fooey. Just when I get all jacked up to add the Virginan FM to my collection, I discover that there are NO scale Virginian cabooses available. MTH lists two, but neither one seems to be available. . Lionel makes a nice scale Virginian caboose, but of course, it's in the bogus blue with yellow trim paint scheme. From what I've been able to find out online, Virginian used a conventional red w/yellow trim paint scheme for their cabooses. Oh well.

[rtraincollector]

Deputy

rtraincollector:

By the way Williams does it both ways the blue came in the set ( Tidewater express) but they also sold the black stripe separate and its not that hard to add TMCC if you want it.

 

 

Ahhh....you answered another question before I asked it
I was thinking about TMCC and sounds for it. Maybe even a full conversion to Proto 2 if I could have smoke with it.

And I'm no electrical person so if i say its easy its easy. I was scared but went to there site and downloaded instructions and think it took me maybe an hour with bouncing back and forth but it is a great item and tickled I have it.

Even adding the sound unit was a breeze the hardest part to me was trying to figure out how to add the micro switch for the run/program part heres a pic of what I did i still need to fill in a little and touch up with some paint but as a whole think it was great location as its easy to access and didn't have to drill thru metal frame. also they give you this like cup to put the speaker in to put inside for the sound I had to cut off the 2 tabs that is suppose to be for screwing it to something and it fit right in the cab up to the area that looks like for a speaker then used glue gun to hold it in place.

 

 

 

Good running engine and this one is actually an older Williams by Williams with no horn installed I also added coil couplers to it. So its complete. I used Lionel coil couplers fit fine I have heard in the past they may or may not fit but my experience so far has been they do. I also hooked up the directional lighting.

[Train-O]

Rob,

Thank you,

Some, of my friends complain that they are unable to open links I send them.
I believe, it's part my fault, as i'm computer illiterate and I'm still learning at my old age and also, my neighbors and I have been having commo. problems in the neighborhood.

Just, like Lionel's C.of N.J's. Blue and Orange scheme is beautiful, Lionel;s Virginian Blue and Yellow scheme is, also, beautiful, compared to both of the prototype colors.

Ralph 

[ADCX Rob]

Train-O

Here Goes!:  http://www.postwarlionel.com/cgi-bin/postwar?ITEM=2331

I can't add the link, so you are going to have to manually type it in.

Ralph

You were almost there...  highlight your url/link, and then click on the "link" icon above - it appears as 3 links of a chain between the "insert a table" icon and the "unlink"(broken chain link) icon.  A dialog box will pop up for you to insert the url, and to choose whether to open in current window or a new one(I usually choose "new" so folks don't get drilled down too far past the original page).

http://www.postwarlionel.com/cgi-bin/postwar?ITEM=2331

Oddly, it's even easier to insert a photo if you have the url of the image:

Rob

[Deputy]

sir james: I certainly appreciate the heads up. After the Jersey Central fantasy orange-blue locos, I've become a bit more careful about proto colors. But if they are close to original, I'll make due. SInce yellow-black appears to  be the correct colors for the Virginian, I'll go with that choice. I know the blue-yellow looks nice, but I prefer to go with as close as possible to original.

[sir james I]

Just thought I'd let you know. The choice is yours. The TM's are not the only ones with funny shades of color. And yet others are dead on. I was hoping WBB would correct this but they have contuined the strange tradition.

[Deputy]

rtraincollector

By the way Williams does it both ways the blue came in the set ( Tidewater express) but they also sold the black stripe separate and its not that hard to add TMCC if you want it.

 

Ahhh....you answered another question before I asked it
I was thinking about TMCC and sounds for it. Maybe even a full conversion to Proto 2 if I could have smoke with it.

[Deputy]

sir james I

If you consider the Williams, caution, their black  and yellow Virginian colors do not match up with any other companys TM.

I assume you are talking about the yellow, since black is black.
I would only be buying one of them, so it's not really an issue. And one could always "fudge" on the colors by saying the real loco's colors changed with age. LOL...it wouldn't really be fudging since real locos colors DO change/fade with age. I've seen UP locos that were freshly painted next to ones that were quite old and the yellow color is certainly different.

[Train-O]

Here Goes!:  http://www.postwarlionel.com/cgi-bin/postwar?ITEM=2331

I can't add the link, so you are going to have to manually type it in.

Ralph

[Train-O]

Deputy,

I've E-Mailed you regarding the Virginian FM TM color scheme and Lionel's beautiful 'Blue & Yellow.'

Ralph

[sir james I]

If you consider the Williams, caution, their black  and yellow Virginian colors do not match up with any other companys TM.

[rtraincollector]

By the way Williams does it both ways the blue came in the set ( Tidewater express) but they also sold the black stripe separate and its not that hard to add TMCC if you want it.

[Deputy]

Thanks guys! Great pics and now I know what to look for when I buy one. Really appreciate the help.

Dep

 

[DMUinCT]

This was a COAL road, Black Diamonds, Black and Yellow.

But doesn't Blue and Yellow look good.   The reflection of a blue sky does make a glossy black look blue.

[rtraincollector]

Heres a direct link to a pic I found

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/vgn/vgn15alr.jpg

but there are more if you goto theres great pics here of most railroads that have fallen or shall we say falenflags http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/#v

[Deputy]

I would like to know what the correct (prototypical) colors are for the Virginian FM Trainmaster. I have seen black and yellow and blue and yellow. Thanks in advance.

Dep