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What type of track do you wish was available?
Posted by fredswain on Monday, August 23, 2010 4:35 PM

As a track person with varied interests, I am curious to see what type of track some people wish existed but currently doesn't. I know many of you are content with tubular, MTH, Atlas, etc track that has been around forever and I find absolutely nothing wrong with this. There is a place in the world for every style out there. What I want to know is, if you could create your version of the ultimate 3 rail O scale track, what would it look like? Any of you that know me know that I am pursuing stud rail and even outside 3rd rail on my home layout. Not because of any ease of use or superiority complex but rather just because it is what interests me. I like building track and hand laying is my favorite past time. My question also doesn't mean what track system do you wish would come back.

Obviously there are many caveats to this question as some people may want to run scale wheels while others only hi-rail wheels. Some don't care about fine detail while others do. Some like wood ties while others prefer injection molded. There is no right or wrong answers provided the answer isn't something we've already seen on the market.

So let's hear it. What type of track do you wish was available? Describe it.

 

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Posted by willpick on Monday, August 23, 2010 4:46 PM

To me, the perfect O scale 3 rail track would be a combination of Ross, Atlas, and MTH.

1) Ross wood ties, Ross's switch variety + Atlas rail + scaletrax rail flexibility--

2) Atlas ties(both "wood" & concrete) + Ross switch variety/dependability + MTH scaletrax rail

3)????

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Posted by fifedog on Monday, August 23, 2010 5:46 PM

I wish JOHNSON's rubber roadbed still came in grey with black ties...instead of all black. Disapprove

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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Monday, August 23, 2010 7:00 PM

Atlas O Track could have different "weight" or code track.

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Posted by hrin on Monday, August 23, 2010 7:19 PM

Track that does not cost an arm and a leg.

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Posted by lionelsoni on Monday, August 23, 2010 7:23 PM

How about tubular track with solid copper wire in the railhead?  Twelve AWG fits easily into O27 and O31 rail.  With soldered joints, it would be as good as separate feeders.  I wish I had thought of it before I built my layout.

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Posted by dwiemer on Monday, August 23, 2010 7:28 PM

Marklin had a "HO" size track that has little bumps in the center like a third rail.  I would love to see something similar on O gauge.

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Posted by lionelsoni on Monday, August 23, 2010 7:38 PM

They call them "Punktkontakten", or "Pukos" for short.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Monday, August 23, 2010 8:09 PM

Gargraves makes a 5 rail flex track so you can run standard/O on same track

Wish they would also make cross sections and switches and even curves for it.

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Posted by arkady on Monday, August 23, 2010 9:34 PM

hrin

Track that does not cost an arm and a leg.

 

I'll second you on that one.

 

That said, my ideal track (for 3-rail Lionel) would be a reissue of Super-O, with an assortment of curve radii and switch diameters.

 

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Posted by fredswain on Monday, August 23, 2010 10:46 PM

dwiemer

Marklin had a "HO" size track that has little bumps in the center like a third rail.  I would love to see something similar on O gauge.

Dennis

I actually offer this to the public as it has been my pet project. It adds on to Atlas 2 rail track so it is really aimed at scale wheels but I am working on a 3 rail wheel solution.  www.deltatracksystems.com

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Posted by fredswain on Monday, August 23, 2010 10:47 PM

lionelsoni

How about tubular track with solid copper wire in the railhead?  Twelve AWG fits easily into O27 and O31 rail.  With soldered joints, it would be as good as separate feeders.  I wish I had thought of it before I built my layout.

That idea is so simple it's brilliant!

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Posted by Boyd on Monday, August 23, 2010 11:08 PM

For reduced sound:

1. Track made completely out of foam with thin metal strips on the top of the rails to conduct current. They could even sell the machine to make it in straights, curves or whatever. Might have some problems with producing fumes. I can just hear it now,,,, mom calling to little Billy in his train room: "Billy, are you making that foam track again? You know that stuff gives your dad a headache". Aww come on mom,,,, I don't have enough track for the toy train tunnel I have planned going to connect with Andrews train layout 3 houses down".

2a. Like noise cancelling headphones, little speakers under the track that makes sound to cancel the sound made by the train. Might be a little bit expensive.

2b. Like noise cancelling headphones, little speakers on the underside of train cars that make sound to cancel sound made by the train as it travels. Might be a little expensive but less than 2a.

3. 3rd rail that sinks back down into the ties after the train passes.

4. Clear plastic 3rd rail with thin metal strip on the top. 

5. For Lionel Fastrak, instead of the ugly upside down "U" shaped rails,, make tubular realistically looking rails like the  real ones use. I think it can be done with the roadbed they are using now.

6. For a person with limited space who wants to have a multi level layout, cogged center rail for pulling those 20 car freights up a 5% grade so the climbing section of track takes up less space.

Stay tuned in I might think of more wacky ideas..

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Posted by rtraincollector on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:42 AM

A cross section 45 degree where one way was O and other Standard gauge would be interesting also

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Posted by mersenne6 on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:01 AM

Tubular track switches like those in the semi-scale domain - i.e. 3 way switch, Y, 0-72 to 0-54 curved track switch, etc.

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Posted by nickaix on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:28 AM

A while back, someone (Fred?) posted pics of track with a bare wire rather than a center rail--like a compromise between stud rail and regular 3-rail that would not require engine modifications.  Could maybe be coated in graphite (dark, conductive).

Or how about Gargraves with an occasional steel tie between the outer rails, for better performance from  Magnetraction locos?

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Posted by fredswain on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:03 AM

I played around with some hand laid track that used a code 100 center rail that I had blackened. I have many old magazines from the 30's and 40's and in them are a few layouts that used a similar technique. One of them has the center rail on small stands to bring them up to running rail height which was most certainly taller than code 148 as it didn't exist yet. The center rail looks alot like you took an outside 3rd rail and just placed it between the main rails due to the way it is mounted. It actually looks kind of neat.

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Posted by cjmeyers on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:10 AM

A reliable turnout that would run large-gear standard gauge engines and connect up with Gargraves.

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Posted by wm #734 on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:07 PM

I think it'd be nice to have Super-O track, only with the outside pins one on each side like with fastrack. Also, different radius Super-O track would be nice.

       

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Posted by Civil War on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 3:10 PM

 I would like reproduction of the old square black tie 0-27 size. I don't like the later brown ties with the flanges on the sides.

I also like the idea of the copper wire incerted in the rail. How great would that be.

 

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 5:00 PM

Boyd
5. For Lionel Fastrak, instead of the ugly upside down "U" shaped rails,, make tubular realistically looking rails like the  real ones use. I think it can be done with the roadbed they are using now.

 

The "U"-shaped rails follow the contour of the plastic molded base.  no "I" cross section can be mounted on the Fastrack base.

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Posted by pete m penn on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 5:29 PM

Cruved turnouts in M.T.H. realtrax in 72 outer 54 inner  plus 54 to 42 & 42 to 31 . For all of us who use it.Smile  Please and thank you.

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Posted by balidas on Thursday, September 9, 2010 10:08 PM

lionelsoni

How about tubular track with solid copper wire in the railhead?  Twelve AWG fits easily into O27 and O31 rail.  With soldered joints, it would be as good as separate feeders.  I wish I had thought of it before I built my layout.

 

I have been considering doing this when I finally get to buid my grandson's layout. Maybe threading stripped 14 gauge stranded through the rail.

I second the Super O with wider radiia and a variety of turnouts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by balidas on Thursday, September 9, 2010 10:11 PM

lionelsoni

How about tubular track with solid copper wire in the railhead?  Twelve AWG fits easily into O27 and O31 rail.  With soldered joints, it would be as good as separate feeders.  I wish I had thought of it before I built my layout.

 

I have been considering doing this when I finally get to buid my grandson's layout. Maybe threading stripped 14 gauge stranded through the rail.

I second the Super O with wider radiia and a variety of turnouts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Timboy on Friday, September 10, 2010 10:55 AM

I wish the AC Gilbert factory would have made 27" radius curves and switches to match.  Vintage track and switches like that is what I would like to see available at train shows and online auctions.  

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