How much is a 681 turbine in fair condition worth? This one had some steps broken on it.
George
If the steps are broken, and it is not very reasonably priced, I would just skip it and look for one in more decent condition.
overall How much is a 681 turbine in fair condition worth? This one had some steps broken on it. George
A Guess ---
A Magne-Traction turbine (681) from the 1950s, in "Good" runable shape with a working Whistle Tender, $100. In "Excellent" condition, no steps missing on the Engine or Tender, I would think about $175 - $200. In "Like New" boxed about $350.
The front steps are part of the body casting, if damaged, forget it. The only value would be in the parts and Tender. The rear steps are a stamping that can be replaced at any parts dealer as are most Turbine parts. A replacement Tender Top is also available in the $30 - $40 range.
Don U. TCA 73-5735
George.....there are about 25 of these 681s currently in the ebay completed listings, and 6 of them did not sell. Of the 19 that did sell, 11 sold for $100 or less.
The Lionel postwar S2 turbines are popular and plentiful (671, 681, 682, and 2020). You may want to check there for some idea of what one might be worth.
Nice addition to any layout for the buyers. And if you are buying, hold out for one with steps.
Jack
IF IT WON'T COME LOOSE BY TAPPING ON IT, DON'T TRY TO FORCE IT. USE A BIGGER HAMMER.
Actually, this was one that was left at a repair shop to be tuned up, and it got lost. The guy cannot find it. I am going over there this weekend to talk to the guy about it. I wanted a ballpark figure so that I could work something out on it. This has never happened to me before so I don't know what protocol is. I thought about asking for credit on merchandise in his shop equal to what was lost.
Thanks to all who replied,
Bet you can find a good one complete with the stairs (and perhaps with another 12 wheel tender). I realize you don't want to be unreasonable about the amount of compensation.
I like your idea of the store credit. This gives the guy some lattitude to be a little bit more generous. You could pick one up on your own and then drop off the new acquisition including the tender for some R&R......and everyone would go home happy.
Jack.
DMUinCT A Guess --- A Magne-Traction turbine (681) from the 1950s, in "Good" runable shape with a working Whistle Tender, $100. In "Excellent" condition, no steps missing on the Engine or Tender, I would think about $175 - $200. In "Like New" boxed about $350.
I am thinking about purchasing a "Greenberg Price Guide" and was wondering if what the book states is close to what Don has here. I have read many of Don's posts and he has answered some of my questions before so I would take what he says with pretty good regards.
I have heard that the Price Guide will only give you the "Excellent" condition or does it give you a range?
Don't take me wrong as I have one couple years old and need a new one but the biggest thing to remember is one this book comes out every year about September so it has actually probably went to the printers about July would be my guess so any changes would already be about 6 months old seeing its for the next year and the biggest thing is its a guide so accrual prices tend to be up and down from the book and depends where your buying. It a good guide to refer to but remember always prices are subject to a lot of things. But bottom line is yes there good to have I would say
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If you have a receipt, I would suggest taking nothing less than a replacement engine, or cash. IMHO, if the store owner wants to give you a store credit, it should be for 150 percent of the retail value of the loco.
George,
According to the 2010 Greenberg's Guide, Engine and Tender are: Good - $132, EXC - $195
According to David Doyle, Collector's Guide to Postwar Lionel Trains 1945-1969, dated 2007
1950-1951: 2671W, loco stamped in silver: VG - $160, EX - $275, LN - $375
1953: 2046W-50, tender loco number stamped in white: VG - $150, EX - $250, LN -$350
These prices include the matching tender.
Good Luck,
John
Just something to add, I just looked over my records and last year I purchased a 681 in great shape and it runs as good as it looks, w/o a tender for $85. I purchased a 2046W tender for $35 in excellent shape, whistles great. Both are white stamped. I have to say that they both had very little run time until they met me.
cwburfleIf you have a receipt, I would suggest taking nothing less than a replacement engine, or cash. IMHO, if the store owner wants to give you a store credit, it should be for 150 percent of the retail value of the loco.
arkadycwburfle If you have a receipt, I would suggest taking nothing less than a replacement engine, or cash. IMHO, if the store owner wants to give you a store credit, it should be for 150 percent of the retail value of the loco. I'm afraid I'd have to agree. And I'd be sure never to do business at that shop again.
cwburfle If you have a receipt, I would suggest taking nothing less than a replacement engine, or cash. IMHO, if the store owner wants to give you a store credit, it should be for 150 percent of the retail value of the loco.
If the shop owner put things right without a hassle, I'd probably continue doing business there.
Unfortunately, I know of too many horror stories where people brought their trains in for repairs, only to have the items disappear, never to be returned. One should always insist on a receipt. But even a receipt isn't always a guarantee of your items return. Years ago, my brother and I were very friendly with the local hobby shop owner, and put some items on consignment with him. In addition, my brother had loaned the owner a scarce toy stationary electric motor for display. The owner then went through a divorce and lost his store in a very short time. We lost everything that was at the shop.
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