Burn??? I've been using it for almost eight years and never had a flame out. That's an old wives tale. Yes it's the stuff you put in hurricane lamps, but it's not kero, it's mosty a parafin base liquid and it has a lot higher flame point then what would be needed to burst out into flame. Seriously I don't know where you guys get some of this? Have you ever seen this cataclysmic event in person? I never have and I've never heard from someone that I knew and trusted to tell me that they had seen the fieryy demon erupt from the stack of a 675. VBG
Why would anyone want to spend 15 bucks for a bottle of pills that eventually clog the system when something is available that works equally or better?
It is not the stuff that you buy for the camping lamps. It's not sterno, it's Lamp Oil and as I said before if you can get the smokeless kind then do because it does last longer per fill and puffs longer. Actually either one works but get the better if you can. The lamp oit that I have is made by Lamplight Farms Inc. and it's labeled Medallion Lamp Oil. One more wives tale is that if you use this, or other than what came with the unit, it will destry your smoke unit. BS I''ve used it, without failure, in MTH, KLine, Lionel, and in my 773 Williams hudson. I'm talking PW Lionel and all the new stuff also.
The last time I bought lamp oil I got it at my local hardware store. I usually get it at Wal Mart for 5 bucks a bottle for the smokeless but this time I paid 6.99 for other than smokeless. So there you have it. Almost smoke for free instead of the rediculous prices for the small bottles. Go for it!
Two things: (Maybe three?)
1. I don't know what a #326rr is.
2. Do NOT use lamp oil. It is designed to BURN. Smoke pellets and fluid are NOT designed to burn. The smoke material is designed to vaporize in the heater, exit the stack, and then condense into air-born visible droplets. You DO NOT want to add highly flammable material to the heating element of your engine!
Finally, I have found that J.T.'s Mega-Steam is by far the best smoking of all the fluids out there. It will also work in Pellet units, although the pellets mentioned above should work as well. Just remember that pellets leave residue.
J.T.'s comes in an amazing variety of scents, including my family's favorite: "Nada".
Jon
Why don't you just use original smoke pellets? Trainz sells new bottles of them for $15 each. Here they are: http://sap049.channeladvisor.com/p-105972-trainz-sp-smoke-pellets-for-lionel-trains-new.aspx
compengsvs@comcast.netHaving modified all my PW steamer's smoke units I now use smokeless lamp oil for my smoke fluid. I even have used some scent extracts to make them smell like the seasons.
Having modified all my PW steamer's smoke units I now use smokeless lamp oil for my smoke fluid. I even have used some scent extracts to make them smell like the seasons.
You mean that stuff they sell in plastic bottles to put in kerosene lamps? As far as I ever knew, that's just kerosene with some heavy scent added to make it smell good. Or are you thinking of something different?
Smokeless fluid works better than the plain lamp oil and I don't know why and really don't care it just works and works great.
Here you lost me. What do you mean by "smokeless fluid?" Is this some other kind of lamp oil? Could you give a brand name or something?
It all sounds good, but I'm a little confused about what you're actually using.
Having modified all my PW steamer's smoke units I now use smokeless lamp oil for my smoke fluid. I even have used some scent extracts to make them smell like the seasons.Smokeless fluid works better than the plain lamp oil and I don't know why and really don't care it just works and works great. The best thing after all is considered is that you or I can buy a whole half gallon of the clear smokeless fluid for less than 6 bucks. It will not hurt your smoke units, won't catch fire and the smell of the untreated without scent fluid, is really non descript in that it really has no petrol odor. So there you go, endless supply of smoke fluid for pennies on the dollar! I've been using it since I got back in the hobby around 98. Oscar
You won't get a PW engine to 'smoke up a storm' you can get the to smoke better, but you'll never get them to smoke like a fan driven smoke unit.As for smoke fkuid. Look for 'Super Smoke' it is a bit thicker than the MTH & Lionel smoke so it lasts a bit longer.
What smoke mediums are you vintage Lionel operators using for old pellet/pill smoke engines such as 326 rr. I've tried MTH smoke fluid and some others without much success. One or two puffs and its all over. There must be some fluid/compound out there that really blows up a storm/ What luck have you all had with what must be a common [but happy or high-grade] problem. I mean, aren't we all very fortunate to have time, energy, health and money to be able to concern ourselves, still, with our childhood toys? Thanks for reading and sharing your knowledge. TraineddadSean
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