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The Chinese train that never stops

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Posted by Train-O on Friday, May 7, 2010 6:35 AM
Doug, I like your concept better. Ralph
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Posted by lionelsoni on Thursday, May 6, 2010 9:45 PM

That's the idea exactly.  I have the feeling that I might have read about an American experiment with this British idea, which would have been newsworthy at that time.  That was when American railroads were beginning to try to cut their losses in passenger service and might have tried anything.  The RDC worked out better for them, I guess.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Thursday, May 6, 2010 7:36 PM

lionelsoni

I'm sure I recall reading about a scheme to drop passenger cars off moving trains, perhaps back in the 1950s or '60s, to be braked to a stop at the station by a conductor; but I can't find any mention of it among the tubes of the Internet.

The British used 'slip coaches,' dropped off the rear of the non-stop expresses, to serve smaller cities between terminals.  They were returned to the originating termini by 'stopping' trains traveling at more mundane speeds and making the usual stops.

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Posted by Timboy on Thursday, May 6, 2010 7:01 PM

 

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Posted by lionelsoni on Thursday, May 6, 2010 5:51 PM

I'm sure I recall reading about a scheme to drop passenger cars off moving trains, perhaps back in the 1950s or '60s, to be braked to a stop at the station by a conductor; but I can't find any mention of it among the tubes of the Internet.

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Posted by Civil War on Thursday, May 6, 2010 4:59 PM

dougdagrump
Didn't Lionel already make something similar ?

 

 

I was thinking of that. It wouldn't be too hard to make one of these. I'd love it.

 

 

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Posted by dougdagrump on Thursday, May 6, 2010 4:41 PM

Didn't Lionel already make something similar ?

 

Sorry, just couldn't resist. Big Smile

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Thursday, May 6, 2010 4:18 PM

This thing accelerates from zero to ??? in about 1.75 x length of train.  HEL-lo G loadings!

Not to mention, there's overhead wire in the cartoon.  What are the pantographs doing during this gyration?

Call me a pessimist, but on a practability scale of 1 to 10 this is about a negative six.

 As for the claim that, 'Elderly passengers cannot be hurried..."  Maybe not in China.  They sure don't need five minutes to make a station stop on the Shinkansen!

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Thursday, May 6, 2010 2:17 PM

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K27VmNfwsaQ&feature=related 

Here it is in english.

Wouldn't it be easier to just use a DMU and a siding?

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The Chinese train that never stops
Posted by Civil War on Thursday, May 6, 2010 1:49 PM

 I want Lionel to build one of these for my layout.

First read the description below then watch the video from You Tube. Sorry it is in Chinese.

A brilliant new Chinese train innovation - get on and off the
bullet train without the train stopping. No time is wasted. The
bullet train is moving all the time. If there are thirty stations between
Beijing and Guangzhou , just stopping and accelerating again
at each station will waste both energy and time.
   A mere five minute stop per station (elderly passengers cannot
be hurried) will result in a  total loss of five minutes times thirty
stations, or two-and-a-half hours of train journey time!
    How it works - read then view the movie - (the commentary is
in Mandarin though):
   1. For those who are boarding the train: The passengers at
a station embark onto to a connector cabin well before the train
even arrives at the station. When the train arrives, it will not stop.
It just slows down to pick up the connector cabin which will move
with the train on the roof of the train.
   While the train is still moving away from the station, those passengers
will board the train from the connector cabin mounted on the train's
roof. After fully unloading all its passengers, the connector cabin will
be moved to the back of the train so that the next batch of outgoing
passengers who want to alight at the next station will board the
connector cabin at the rear of the train roof.
   2. For those who are getting off: As stated, after fully unloading
all its passengers, the connector cabin will be moved to the back
of the train so that the next batch of outgoing passengers who want
to alight at the next station will board the connector cabin at the
rear of the train roof. When the train arrives at the next station,
it will simply drop the whole connector cabin at the station itself
and leave it behind at the station. The outgoing passengers can take
their own time to disembark at the station while the train has already
left. At the same time, the train will pick up the incoming embarking
passengers on another connector cabin in the front part of the
train's roof. So the train will always drop one connector cabin at
the rear of its roof and pick up a new connector cabin in the front
part of the train's roof at each station.
 
Chinese Train

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