? about 6019 remote control track

[iakobos]

 Thanks for both responses.  I figured it was probably an insulator.  I'll work on it some more and see if I can get it right.  Since the uncoupler is the main thing I need and since it works, I and my two helpers had some fun with it tonight.  You can't see it but it's under the green log dump car (logs are sitting next to the car) and works like a champ.

PS: How about those vice-grips on the old 1033 transformer.

[dsmith]

Yes, you need the insulator that you are missing.  It keeps the 2 brass fingers from contacting each other when the unload button is pressed.  You could fashion a small piece out of wood, styrofoam or plastic and glue it on one of the brass fingers.

[phillyreading]

My guess is that it is an insulater to keep power to only one rail with the one button pressed and powers both or all features with the second button pressed.

I had an 027 remote control track with an operating horse coral one time and the car got both common and hot wire from the sliding shoe pickups. It may depend on what the parts number is(6019 or other number)as to how you wire the remote control track.

Also I have a pre-war hopper(3959) that unloads and uncouples but takes the hot wire from the remote control track with the sliding shoe and the common power from the frame of the car. You may have to use jumper wires from a small transformer and test the operating car to see how it needs power supplied to it to work.

Lee F.

[iakobos]

I rewired it exactly the way it's drawn on the schematic. But I'm missing the object with the red arrow pointing to it.  Is that an insulator or a jumper?

 

[dsmith]

The uncouple button should make the 2 control rails hot as well as engage the electromagnet.  The uncouple button should not engage the magnet and one control rail should be hot and the other should be common.  My guess is that the button or the track section is miswired somewhere.  These 2 photos should make it clear how the wiring goes.

[iakobos]

You're right about the two extra rails.  I checked them with the volt meter and with the "Unload" button pushed they are both hot.  However, pressing the "Uncouple" button also makes them both hot so pressing either button operates both the electromagnet and the extra rails on mine.

[8ntruck]

I've got an old operating log car that uses the unload feature.  The car itself has a solonoid that operates a ratchet wheel with a cam on it that dumps the logs.  Repeated pushes of the unload button are required to empty the car.  Power for the solonoid is picked up off of the spare rails by 'flying shoes' on the trucks.

I've never checked to be sure, but the unload button either makes both extra rails 'hot' or one of the extra rails is ground (common, same as the outside rail) and the other is 'hot' when the button is pushed.  That could be checked easily with a volt meter.

 

[iakobos]

I was recently given my first 6019 remote control track (like the one below) by the owner of the local Lionel store.  Since all the insulation was cracking off the wires, he said if I could repair it, I would have earned it.  So, I rewired it tonight and tested it out on a few cars and the uncoupler works great. 

My question concerns the "Unload" button and the two rails it controls.  Right now when I press the "Unload" button it opperates the electromagnet for the uncoupler.  Is it supposed to do this?  I don't have any cars that utilize the two unload rails so I have no way to test it out to see if it's working properly.  But eventually I will, and want to know more about the theory of operation on the "Unload" button.

Thanks in advance.