Define PWC/Could it include a CAN Motor?

[Kooljock1]

I was looking through the Greenberg Guide to LIONEL 1945-1969, and it got me thinking(always a danger I know!). Would the LIONEL Post War Celebration Series work with CAN motors in the steamers?

Think of the #2046, #773, #736, #681, and #675 made from crisp new tooling, and with CAN motors with flywheels, TMCC, Odyssey, and RailSounds.

I'm thinking these would come as part of PWC sets, not for separate sale.

Each set with the appropriate cars rather like the Wabash and Majestic Electric sets.

Would you buy a CAN motored 675 with 2400 series cars made with metal frames?

Jon [8D]

[SPFan]

With the exception of the 675 Williams has already done this sans TMCC. No reason Lionel couldn't do it as well, though.
Pete

[Big_Boy_4005]

Absoutely!! I have learned to hate the old motors!!! Too much maintainence, and real power hogs. Give me can motors any day!!!!

[cwburfle]

If Lionel thought they could get away with putting can motors in the PWC line, I think they would have done so long ago. I guess there are still some folks in the buying public who want somewhat authentic reproductions. I'm waiting for them to reissue the 55 tiejector car as a PWC item with everything restored to it's postwar configuration.

[Anonymous]

Didn't Lionel already re-issue the 55 tie jector a few years back. I know it wasn't PWC series, but since was already done, my guess is that they won't anytime soon. Can always hope though!

I would like to see them do the Navy Yard switcher as well.

[brianel027]

On an off topic Jon, just got the new issue of CTT and saw the ad you mentioned in another post. It was a hoot and illustrated in one simple picture what is wrong with the hobby... greed.

If the guy in the photo had been with me one day, he could have watched me buy the same engine at the Salvation Army for 95¢. Okay, I did have to spend a few extra dollars on making improvements - and the engine pulls 11-12 cars now no slippage. Still I can't imagine I have more than $10 in it now. My nephew loves that little engine for no other reason than he knows I got it for a deal and it's red - his favorite color. I'll note he likes Conrail and NS too.

Oh wait, got a phone call.... the Salvation Army is on the phone... can you believe it... they want the other $349.05 I owe them.
I should have consulted the price guide first! [:D]

[GregM]

I seem to recall that the engine in PWC "Girls Set" had a can motor. This and the fact it didn't have TMCC caused such a volume of complaints that special add-on cars were produced. I've never been a fan of this set, so I didn't buy one. I have bought a few PWC sets and separate items.

This was a while ago, so if I've got something wrong, SORRY!

[eZAK]

If I understand this correctly, Lionel is still making engines with AC open frme motors!

I did not know this.

Does any one have any numbers for new locos with AC motors??

[Kooljock1]

eZak,

Aside from the above mentioned Girls Set and the matching Boys set, all the Post War Celebration Series engines have been equipped with open-frame "Universal" motors. This includes the PWC GP-7/9's, the PWC F-3's, and the PWC GG-1's.

And don't get me wrong, they're all great. It's just that when it comes to motive power for my mountain division, the CAN motor and Odyssey are hard to beat!

As far as the Girls/Boys sets, there were two reasons not to buy them. First, no TMCC. And second, the N5C cabin car tooling hadn't been restored yet. You could also throw in the lack of the cheesy white transformer too, but I don't think that was a deal buster for most of us! And I really liked the LTI packaging better, with the correct set box.

Jon [8D]

[cwburfle]

The #55 tie jector car was reissued with a can motor. In addtion, assorted parts were also switched from metal to plastic. Unfortunately, I preordered, so I do own one. I'd like to see them reissue the tie jector to it's postwar configuration.

[Anonymous]

forgive my ignorance...

i own nearly all the postwar engines that they re-issued in the Post War Celebration.

did the re-issues come with the new cans or with the old wire armatures and brush motors?

[Kooljock1]

All the re-issues with the exception of the Girl's and Boy's sets have Post War style open-frame "universal" motors. To be sure, many also come with TMCC/RailSounds too, but a Post War style steamer with a CAN motor and Odyssey would be terrific!

I just got the PWC #50 Section Gang Car last night from Brown, and you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference from the original except for the "PW" below the number, and the PWC plaque on the bottom.

Jon [8D]