How can I tell the difference bewteen postwar and prewar versions? Assuming similar condition, is one more reliable than the other?
thx, Don
Does anyone have info on this?
thx, don
Don, use your favorite search engine to search on the phrase #97 coal elevator - I've always wanted a #96 coal elevator - the manual one -- see http://www.lots-trains.org/html/97_coal_elevator.html for example.
Doug Murphy 'We few, we happy few, we band of brothers...' Henry V.
Don, waiting four days for a reply indicates you are more patient than I am!
My references indicate the '38-'42 and '46-'50 #97's were identical, except the '42 conveyer frames were painted gray instead of aluminum (war shortage).
As with other Lionel items that originated prior to 1942, there are few (if any) parts lists and exploded-view diagrams. However, Olsen's Trains (http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/searchcd1.htm ) has a parts list for postwar #97's, and a diagram with parts list for pre-war #97's. You could do a part-by-part comparison to see if there are any differences.
I suspect reliability will have more to do with the condition of the accessory itself rather than the year it was manufactured.
The two accesories are identical. The postwar ones probably used a mix of new and leftover parts. Reliability would be in the condition and how well the piece was maintained. DOnt be afraid to buy a beater and repair it. They are noisy and messy, but are definatley impressive.
Thanks all for the replies!
Don
I have a #97 coal elevator - no controller and no mechanism under the base. Otherwise seems complete. Is it feasible to get it working again?
David
Is it missing the motor,or the solenoid to tip the bucket? Also is it a manual model? Lionel did make a manual version in the prewar years.
I'm sure Jeff at ttender.com could provide you with the parts to get it up and running. He is amazing in the knowledge department, and one of the most courteous vendors in the hobby.
Enjoy. He sells repro controllers cheap also.
The piston for the scoop is there. Underneath, all there is - a driving shaft for the chain with a brass gear on it. There is a picture of the underside on a Ebay listing. Seems to be a lot of mechanism under there.
I could put a handle on the drive shaft and work it manually.
I looked at ttender.com - lots of parts listed. Not sure what I am missing. Never seen the thing in the flesh. Mine is probably the only one in England.
davidwebbI have a #97 coal elevator - no controller and no mechanism under the base. Otherwise seems complete. Is it feasible to get it working again? David
Yes, terminals on both sides.
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