I have been asked to intervene, and I think I will. It has pretty much been asked and answered. To err is human, to forgive oughta be no more difficult.
Those posting to the wrong forum have been notified that their posts were moved to the appropriate place. I didn't feel the need to use the term blockhead, either.
Kooljock1 wrote:Dave,Some ten years ago when I came to work at "KOOL 105", I was doing a live broadcast from a supermarket. Some "crunchy-granola", Birkenstock-wearing, NPR listening, Volvo-driving, hairy-legged woman came up to me and did this screaming tirade about how ASHAMED I should be for working for "Big Tobacco".I finally said: "Lady... what ARE you talking about?"Turns out she thought I was hawking KOOL cigarettes. I told her that I had never smoked a cigarette of ANY kind, which is probably more than she could say...Jon
Careful, NC Farm owner on here. If you've got'em smoke'em. I don't though.
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37fleetwood,
I must have read kooljock's post exactly the opposite of the way you did. He's consistently one of the good guys....
Hi, I would like to say, Having been one of theblockheads in the wrong forum, that it is better to be an blockheads than a jerk like the guy who started the post. this is especially true when you look at just how these forums are set up. I was reading a post about toy trains and hit start new thread and was in the wrong forum before I realized it. perhaps I'm in the wrong place still. I thought this was a place where folks enjoyed meeting people with similar likes. is there another toy train forum where the people are friendlier? perhaps it's just the "Real Train" people who are so disagreeable! remind me not to go to their forum any more.
Scott
I had a "Peanuts" calendar a long time ago and kept one page of it for a long time. Linus is shown holding his blanket and the caption is:
"I love mankind; it's people I can't stand."
That about says it all.
Semper Vaporo
Pkgs.
Jon,
I'm speechless. Utterly speechless. Just goes to show, I guess, what happens when you jump to conclusions.
Bob Nelson
I think if you new at this hobby going to the wrong forum is an easy mistake to make, I know from first-hand experiance because I did!! But as far as whats up with people, it seems that around the holidays they can act quite different. Case in piont, I hate to go shopping, but the local WalMart was have thier day-after-Thanksgiving sale. They had a tv there for 60% off reg price and my wife just had to have that tv. Well she was'nt feeling well that morning so I had to get there by 5;30am, there was already a line 2 blocks long, when I got into the store it really was a mob mentallity. Some little old lady was looking for an item, and asked the sales clerk where she could find it, when he told her they did'nt have it in stock, she screamed at him for it beeing in the sales ad, and SLAPPED him!!! REALLY it's true, when I saw that I immediatly left the store with no tv, and will never go shopping the day after Thanksgiving.
Paul
When I was in college I worked for a large consumer electronics chain that will remain unnamed (I was young and I needed the money). We couldn't figure out why people were bringing toilets and lumber into the store and trying to return them. Then someone pointed out there was a large home-improvement store in the same plaza.
Some people thought it was funny. Some copped an attitude. Some of the stuff the place sold then (and still sells now) belongs in toilets, so I didn't see any need for an attitude.
Bob Keller
IF IT WON'T COME LOOSE BY TAPPING ON IT, DON'T TRY TO FORCE IT. USE A BIGGER HAMMER.
I hear you, Jon, but even if one gets to the "proper" forum it is still quite confusing:
1. Gauge vs. Scale
2. Trainsounds vs. Railsounds vs Tru-blast vs Signalsounds vs ProtoSounds vs ....
3. FasTrack, RealTrax, ScaleTrax, SuperOTrack, sectional track, flextrack, etc.
4. Type Z, ZW (postwar), ZW (modern), the look-alike quadruplets: BW-80, CW-80 original version; CW-80 revised version, PowerMax, etc.
5. Transformer power ratings in watts: "Postwar" -- input power in watts, which compares to around 70% of "Modern" output power in watts, everything else being equal -- which it generally isn't.
6. Transformer waveforms: sine wave; cropped (or chopped) waveform
7. Alternating versus direct current
8. Operation: Conventional, TMCC, DCC, DCS, heaven-knows-what else
9. Electronic vs. traditional electro-mechanical, as in e-units and whistle/horns
10. Layout schemes and details: loops, blocks, dog-bones, wyes, switch-backs, reversing loops, frogs....
11. Wiring-convention terminology: hot, positive, plus (+), power, red; vs., neutral, negative, minus (-), return; black, etc. (After all these years, this terminology is still awful!)
12. Manufacturers: MTH, Weaver, Bachmann-Williams, Atlas-O, Lionel ("I didn't know they still made those...!"), RMT, etc.
13. "I don't need no owner's manual. I had one of them (Hogwarts sets) when I was a kid."
14. Era: Prewar, postwar, MPC, LTI, modern....
And on and on and on. No wonder folks sometimes get in the right pew but the wrong church. Ya just gotta be patient.
.........................
There's an old saying in the "helping" professions: "You have to start where the client is, not where you would like him to be."
Note: I made absolutely no effort to check the spelling of proprietary terms; and the above remarks are only exemplary, certainly not exhaustive.
Be Kool man. That's a little harsh calling a likely newcomer a blockhead just because they didn't immediately discern the difference between the similar sounding forum names: Trains, Classic Trains and Classic Toy Trains.
Maybe when you got to the forums their would be a sub menu with "Real Trains" and "Model Trains" to choose from. This might help.
They're all nuts. Thats the problem with people.
I just noticed in the Trains.com forum, "Kids and model railroading". I dont think I ever scrolled down all the way to even see this part of the forum. Who knew
I think its the time of year also. lots of new model railroaders getting into trains. Shows on ebay too. Prices seem to be up.
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