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Another Lawsuit -- We need a commemorative Litigation Train

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Posted by dougdagrump on Monday, October 1, 2007 8:36 AM

How about a paper shredding car, complete with law clerks, that would leave a trail of confetti whenever the papershredding sounds are activated. It could also be used in place of a tender for steamer.

Not to mention a "Lawyer Joke Caboose" with updatable files. 

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Posted by FJ and G on Monday, October 1, 2007 10:00 AM

Bob's link to a previous thread with the "author" is rather interesting.

 

It's despicable to knowingly violate copyright laws (unknowingly would be difficult). So much stuff gets repeated on the Web that it's hard to trust. As for facts, I like to sometimes put up a so-called fact or 2 on the forum to see just how factual others may think it is. The forum is a good sounding board, but not a substitute for research, of course.

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Posted by palallin on Monday, October 1, 2007 11:52 AM

For fear of ABT trying to sue me for something, I will say only the following:

 

I have never and will NEVER even contemplate buying from ABTrains.

 

I know and respect Dave Doyle.

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Posted by lionelsoni on Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:48 PM

Did I miss the ending to this?  A mention of Doyle in a recent topic inspired me to google the subject; and I came up with this press release:

David Doyle and Paul V. Ambrose Settle Lawsuit

Pittsburgh, PA, December 31, 2007.

The lawsuit filed by Paul V. Ambrose in late June against Krause Publications and David Doyle alleging that the Standard Catalog of Lionel Train Sets, 1945-1969 infringed upon the copyrights in earlier works written by Mr. Ambrose has been settled by Mr. Ambrose and Mr. Doyle. The Publisher, Krause Publications, Inc., earlier had settled with Mr. Ambrose.

Mr. Doyle has issued the following statement regarding this settlement: "In my preparation of The Standard Catalog of Lionel Train Sets, 1945-1969 and The Collector Guide to Lionel Trains, 1945-1969 I made a mistake. Portions of books previously written by Mr. Paul V. Ambrose on Lionel Post-War Toy Trains appeared in my books. Even more regrettably, Mr. Ambrose's contributions over the past decades to the hobby of collecting postwar Lionel trains was not acknowledged in my books. I have apologized to Mr. Ambrose for my actions and have assigned him the copyrights to these, and other, books of mine as part of our settlement. Mr. Ambrose has graciously accepted my apology. I would also like to apologize to the collecting community.

Other terms of the settlement were not disclosed.

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Posted by BDT in Minnesota on Friday, September 12, 2008 12:57 AM
Don;  I allready have one of those litigation trains, but I think it will stay hidden in a tunnel so nobody ever sees that bugger........I don't want to be sued!!!Confused [%-)]
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Posted by rtraincollector on Friday, September 12, 2008 4:34 AM

 pennsy_fan wrote:
And dont forget the "merchandise car" That ejects little briefcases at the touch of a button onto the milk platform.Big Smile [:D]

How about a little twist to that a passenger car that ejects lawers with there breif case on to a train station platform and who would care if they landed standing or on there head

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Posted by Berk765 on Friday, September 12, 2008 5:55 AM
Whew!!!Sigh [sigh] I thought it was another lawsuit between Lionel and MTH. Lawsuits Lawsuits Lawsuits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by kpolak on Friday, September 12, 2008 6:29 AM

I have the 2004 version of the Doyle book, and from what I understand, not having first hand knowlege, the new(er) version is not as complete.  I understand a great deal of information on  accessories does not appear in the updated book.

Now that Ambrose holds the copywright will they re-issue the 2004 version of the Doyle book under the Ambrose name?

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Posted by DMUinCT on Friday, September 12, 2008 9:05 AM

   ABT may, or may not, have a good case, as items appear to be copied "word for word".   The "Greenberg" books have been a great help to the hobby by giving a "ball park" estimate of value and details of collectable products.

    But --- TCA is a non-profit Association, who stated mission is to Promote The Toy Train Hobby. They make available ALL new books on the subject and in some cases allow a "book signing" on there property.  

    TCA is the largest Association devoted to the toy train hobby with 30,000 members.   Is there any reason to try to BANKRUPT a non-profit Association for promoting a member's book about the hobby?      Did ABT take there complaint about a fellow member to TCA, as required by the Bylaws?   Did TCA try to help?  

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Posted by Deputy on Friday, September 12, 2008 9:21 AM
I would like to see an Orange Juice Tank Car on the litigation train set. (Orange Juice = OJ.) On the side the motto should read "You Can't Beat Our Juice", and the emblem should be a hand with a glove halfway on. Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by BDT in Minnesota on Friday, September 12, 2008 9:21 AM
I have come to the conclusion that what this hobby needs is an O Gauge      Judge Judy Courthouse.....made in the USAClown [:o)]
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Posted by Deputy on Friday, September 12, 2008 9:26 AM

 BDT in Minnesota wrote:
I have come to the conclusion that what this hobby needs is an O Gauge      Judge Judy Courthouse.....made in the USAClown [:o)]

Make it Judge Milan Courthouse and it's a deal. She's hotter looking and has a nice personality. Judge Judy is a witch. And I think I misspelled witch Wink [;)]

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Posted by BDT in Minnesota on Friday, September 12, 2008 9:51 AM
 Deputy wrote:

 BDT in Minnesota wrote:
I have come to the conclusion that what this hobby needs is an O Gauge      Judge Judy Courthouse.....made in the USAClown [:o)]

Make it Judge Milan Courthouse and it's a deal. She's hotter looking and has a nice personality. Judge Judy is a witch. And I think I misspelled witch Wink [;)]

 

Deputy, we have a deal!!!  But..,, a couple other thoughts; if you were thinking of a 1:1 scale statue of Judge Milan on the courthouse lawn on your layout, it may be a little off scale.....as far as Judge  Judy, maybe her figure could be added to the halloween train..

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Posted by Deputy on Friday, September 12, 2008 10:03 AM
 BDT in Minnesota wrote:

Deputy, we have a deal!!!  But..,, a couple other thoughts; if you were thinking of a 1:1 scale statue of Judge Milan on the courthouse lawn on your layout, it may be a little off scale.....as far as Judge  Judy, maybe her figure could be added to the halloween train..


Ahhh...now we have a meeting of minds!!!! Big Smile [:D]Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by phillyreading on Friday, September 12, 2008 11:27 AM

 dbaker48 wrote:
Don't forget the MINT cars!  And maybe a hobo car, modified with characters carrying briefcases.

You mean an attorney car? Correct?

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Posted by MilesWRich on Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:16 PM
I just made a purchase on his auction. I wish i had read about this suit and his other suit. I may be an attorney but I avoid people who litigate like that like the black plague.

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