Wheel flange too tall...

[clickmatch]

I have a lionel locomotive, 1664, it says "027" on the bottom. But I use Super-O and when it runs around the track, the flange bumps on all the metal clips that hold the rails to the plastic "ties".

So I guess my question is, should I change the wheels, have them grinded down? Or is there a way to make the inner "ring" have a bigger radius? Or do i just leave this one alone to have as a look-but-don't-touch loco?

 Thanks =)

[rtraincollector]

you may have to make either an O-27 or _ track just for it another thought try it your local hobby shop (if they have a layout) or see if they have 1 gar graves track and see if it hits on a piece of that if not that may be your way out so you still have track with ties. Not sure thou that it will have the height that you need.

[PhilaKnight]

I would get a wheel puller take off the original wheels get another set of wheels try grinding them down and see if that works. This way you still have the original wheels and not really destroying anything but a spare set of wheels.

Did a search and it looks like alot of people have parts for sale on the 1664.

I dug mine up and tried it on some Super O I have and I didn't notice it hitting. Mine looks like some one put it together. The other one I got I know someone put it together. 

[rtraincollector]

Thats another point maybe someone put new wheels on it some time ago and put O gauge not O-27 gauge wheels

[PhilaKnight]

Good point.

[clickmatch]

That's interesting.. I think I'll run it down to the hobby shop... see if I can get some wheels or something. Be funny if someone put different wheels on it.

I think some of my grand dad's trains were bought at garage sales. So it's likely all sorts of strangeness could have happened.

[chuck]

1664 is a pre-war loco.  It probably has O style flanges, not O-27.

[clickmatch]

Well the bottom clearly has "027" stamped on the metal lionel id tag underneath. I can post an image later, as I was planning to anyways to compare the flange size to the other locos I have.

[rtraincollector]

Yes but cataloged as O-27 in my book and he stated it says O-27 on bottom of engine . I have found Items as far back as 1935 cataloged as O-27 . Not sure when Lionel started making O-27 but I'm guessing that is close. I also have heard that Lionel would use a different part from time to time if they were out of a part like at the begining of a run so seeing O was still very common back in 1938 - 1942 its very possible that could have happened also . I remember my father having wheels put on a engine (because I broke 2 by accident ) and because they were out he said they put different wheels all the way around so they would match. (the repair shop) . Alot of these old engines we don't have no idea what has happened to them.

[lionelsoni]

Lionel got the O27 line when they bought Ives, around 1930.  Check out this article:

http://trains.com/ctt/default.aspx?c=a&id=861