8141 tender question

[traindaddy1]

Hi!. I'm trying to match a tender to my Pennsylvania 2-4-2 (red stripe) 8141 Gray engine.

The Lionel web site shows an 8141-T-1 tender. Would you know if the color of the tender is gray or black?   Also, would you know of another model tender that would compliment this engine?  As always, many thanks.

[Jumijo]

The tender is gray as well. If not mistaken, this is a plastic bodied locomotive?

Jim 

[1688torpedo]

 Hello Traindaddy!   The only other Engine/Tender combo Lionel made was an 8203 in Black with a Tender & a Red Stripe on both sides of the Engine & red Pennsylvania Lettering on the Tender. They were made in 1972 & are somewhat hard to find. Take Care.

[phillyreading]

The 8141 could be plastic as the year it was made according to Greenberg's price guide is 1971 & 72.

Jaabat, the numbers for post war Lionel engines don't match up according to how many numbers are on the locomotive as to O gauge or 027.  I have a post war 224 steam loco for O gauge and a 235 steam loco for 027.  You had mentioned that four digit numbers were 027 and three digit numbers were O gauge on another post recently, that may be true about 66% of the time but not always the case, Lionel had a pattern to their numbering and it had more to do with electric coil couplers verses regular couplers than something O gauge or 027, if I remember correctly.

Lee F.

[Jumijo]

Exceptions to every rule, Philly!

[johnsgg1]

Traindaddy, the 8141 tender is indeed gray and will match the engine.  The 8203 PRR came with two different 8203 tenders, one a coal tender and the other oil.  Both are black with red Pennsylvania.

Lionel also marketed the 8042 PRR engine, black, with a type 8141 black tender with white Pennsylvania.  The coal load is perforated for the SOS speaker but this engine did not come with SOS.  I believe this engine came in a Department Store set, sometimes with a different roadname tender, but it is the only issuance of an 8141 type tender, black, with white Pennsylvania.

 

[Jumijo]

Exceptions to every rule, Philly! Most, if not all of the 3 digit 027 locos were the Scout type steamers. Also, most Lionels were capable of running on 027 track.The type of track put in the set box also classified a loco as 0 or 027. The couple type only impacted the first number of the car's part number.

Jim 

[traindaddy1]

Jim-Keith-Lee-Johnsgg1:   Thanks so much for the info.

[cwburfle]

In general the tender would be the same color as the locomotive.