That is the most ridiculous thing to say that ANY freight, passenger or tender during the Lionel postwar era came with "Luxury Lines" on it. Not one original, mock-up etc. was lettered like that.
Whatever it was- it WAS NOT geniune original postwar. Where do you guys come up with stuff?
The L in "Luxury Lines" is the closest that Williams will ever get to putting "Lionel Lines" on their products. They are simply copying the postwar line as closely as possible in hopes of "hitting home" with the postwar collector that can't afford the real thing.
Excuse me for laughing..........
Before this thread gets any further with name calling and insults, I'd like to say that I misread a picture of " Lionel Lines " as on a passenger car.
Now ,some of you folks ,can go undo your undies.
That's for the comments...Kevin and John.
LS1Heli wrote: That is the most ridiculous thing to say that ANY freight, passenger or tender during the Lionel postwar era came with "Luxury Lines" on it. Not one original, mock-up etc. was lettered like that. Whatever it was- it WAS NOT geniune original postwar. Where do you guys come up with stuff? The L in "Luxury Lines" is the closest that Williams will ever get to putting "Lionel Lines" on their products. They are simply copying the postwar line as closely as possible in hopes of "hitting home" with the postwar collector that can't afford the real thing.
Yeah, some of us can't keep up with you HIGH END, pristene collectors. I just can't afford the real thing . Sure wish you lived by me .
As is so often the case on discussion forums: Much fuss over nothing.
Williams chose "Luxury Lines" for rather obvious reasons. If it bothers you, simply don't purchase the cars. It certainly doesn't bother me enough to preclude me buying those cars if I happened to need or want them. The quality alone is enough to attract my dollars if I needed more traditional-size passenger equipment.
LS1Heli wrote:That is the most ridiculous thing to say that ANY freight, passenger or tender during the Lionel postwar era came with "Luxury Lines" on it. Not one original, mock-up etc. was lettered like that. Whatever it was- it WAS NOT geniune original postwar. Where do you guys come up with stuff? The L in "Luxury Lines" is the closest that Williams will ever get to putting "Lionel Lines" on their products. They are simply copying the postwar line as closely as possible in hopes of "hitting home" with the postwar collector that can't afford the real thing.
This kind of reply is best suited for other forums. We are all friends here, and aside from some obvious friendly banter between buddies, we like to keep the conversations civil. The guy made an honest mistake. You've never done that?!
Jim
Modeling the Baltimore waterfront in HO scale
Where can I get the Jaws of Life?
I agree with jaabat. That kind of comment reminds one of ... elsewhere.
And anyway, what's with this "collector" talk? Williams trains are often worth thousands to "collectors." Don't their ads say, for example, "COLLECTOR VALUE: $2,500"?
Bob Keller
Aw shucks.....I was just about to see if Chuck wanted to buy a genuine set of Lionel Postwar Luxury Line 027 passenger cars.
BTW For Allan and others: The reason I brought up the topic was not to criticise the Williams line, but if my theory that many don't like the name and would prefer real railroad names holds true, perhaps Williams can do even better in their sales.
NYC Fan wrote: Aw shucks.....I was just about to see if Chuck wanted to buy a genuine set of Lionel Postwar Luxury Line 027 passenger cars.BTW For Allan and others: The reason I brought up the topic was not to criticise the Williams line, but if my theory that many don't like the name and would prefer real railroad names holds true, perhaps Williams can do even better in their sales.
Skip, Thanks for the offer, but I have depleted my Trains Piggy Bank for awhile. I, too, would like to see Williams put real roadnames on some of their passenger cars. In fact, I am going to call them , and suggest it. I'm sure that they would appreciate some feedback from their customers. Chuck
I am the monster in your head...And I thought you'd learn by now, It seems you haven't yet.I am the venom in your skin --- Breaking Benjamin
but if my theory that many don't like the name and would prefer real railroad names holds true, perhaps Williams can do even better in their sales.
I can only speak for myself but I didn't buy the Williams 50th Anniversary because of the Union Pacific.. I bought it because I liked O-27 Streamliners and never found the "yellow" ones at a decent price. Williams sells memories and I'm sure there are enough people out there who buy them because they seem to be doing okay.
On the other hand I often see the people who want only exact prototypes complain about the color or the trucks or the door handles whenever a company tries to give them what they want.
Williams does make passenger cars with real road names. Many real roadnames. And last night, I finally received my new Williams catalog. The 60' aluminum Luxury Lines passenger cars look nice. A little lacquer thinner on a cotton swab would remove that lettering in about 3 seconds if it offends. "Jumijo R.R" would look mighty nice there!
A rose by any other name is still a rose. An O-27 12 inch streamline passager car with
'Luxury Lines," is still an O-27 streamline passenger car.A generic drug is still as good as the real thing.It's like that 3rd rail running down the middle of our tracks. It's just not there.Easter
jaabat wrote:Williams does make passenger cars with real road names. Many real roadnames.
Williams does make passenger cars with real road names. Many real roadnames.
Jim is, of course, correct. Not all of Williams' passenger cars sport "Luxury Lines" lettering. Truth is, the majority of them carry real roadnames just like those produced by other manufacturers. Williams offers plenty to choose from, as a quick look through their catalog will readily reveal.
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