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Majestic GG1 problem?

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Majestic GG1 problem?
Posted by laz 57 on Monday, May 16, 2005 8:09 AM
I bought a Lionel GG1 from the Majestic set. My problem is that it lurches and hesitates going around the layout. I oiled and applied grease to all the points as suggested in the manual and even added oil to the motors, but still the same result. I ran it in reverse for a number of laps and then forward still the same result. Any help would be appricated.
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Posted by cnw1995 on Monday, May 16, 2005 8:18 AM
Laz, does anything else lurch or hesitate like that? Or is it happening on the same stretch of track? From my personal experience, sometimes my engines seem to need to 'warm up' a bit - or alternatively, there's nothing wrong with the engine but maybe that part of track has to be cleaned or there is something that is causing power to drop there.

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Posted by laz 57 on Monday, May 16, 2005 8:33 AM
DOUG,
Thanks for the thought but that was the first thought in my mind and I did clean up the track and checked the connections and still the same result.
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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Monday, May 16, 2005 8:34 AM
LAZ, do I understand it works okay in reverse? If it runs great in one direction and crappy in the other direction, I would guess that a pickup or a connection might be the problem.

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Posted by laz 57 on Monday, May 16, 2005 8:50 AM
BUCKEYE thanks for the insight,but the problems are in both directions. Also I get a lot of heat build up after about 30 minutes of run time.
OH BUCKEYE the check is in the mail (wink).
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Posted by 1688torpedo on Monday, May 16, 2005 9:17 AM
Hello Laz ! It sounds like one of the Alnico Magnets for the Magne-Traction maybe rubbing against one or more of the Drive Wheels and was not properly stacked in place at the Factory. Your Best bet should be to call Lionel & ask for a return form or if it came from a local dealer take it back to them. I have a hunch this is the problem with your GG-1. Good Luck to you................Keith
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Posted by laz 57 on Monday, May 16, 2005 9:45 AM
Thanks KEITH I think I'm gonna take it back this friday.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 16, 2005 9:04 PM
Laz,

I know this sounds silly, but did you install the pantographs on your GG-1 yet? I had a similar problem with my Majestic GG-1 and the dealer told me that the pantographs are part of the TMCC signal receiving process. I installed them and my GG-1 has ran great ever since. Just a thought.

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Posted by laz 57 on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:17 AM
Thanks JIM,
Panographs are on ran good for about 25 minutes last night then get the hurky jurky stuff again. I think its probably a high spot on one of the windings of one of the motors.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 7:29 PM
Laz,

I'd definitely take it back to the dealer. There's gotta be something wrong internally,.

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Posted by iguanaman3 on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 1:52 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by laz 57

Thanks JIM,
Panographs are on ran good for about 25 minutes last night then get the hurky jurky stuff again. I think its probably a high spot on one of the windings of one of the motors.
laz57


Do your lights flicker when the jerkiness occurs? Does it also happen you run the engine in conventional mode? If it runs good for 25 minutes, I doubt it's a gear problem. It might be heating up too much and causing the ACDR unit to falter. Make sure you tell the repair person that it works OK for 25 minutes otherwise it may have a quick turnaround with nothing done!

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Posted by laz 57 on Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:18 AM
Thank you NEIL. The heat is starting to disapate and some of the jerkyness is gone. I will add a few drops of oil to the motors as stated in the manual and see if this will work. Maybe they didnt pre oil at facyory or oil dried. It is starting to run longer without jerkyness.
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Posted by spankybird on Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:42 AM
Laz - you have to use an appoved oil can for this


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Posted by Jim Duda on Thursday, May 19, 2005 11:32 AM
Lazzie - NO! Don't use Tom's...his oilcan is not NIST certified or traceable...USE THIS ONE!

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Posted by laz 57 on Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:58 PM
CAN[swg][swg][swg] I borrow one of YUZ 2 GIZs CANs[swg][swg][swg]?
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