Williams - True or False ???

[Buckeye Riveter]

On this ebay web page,

http://cgi.ebay.com/WABASH-BLUE-BIRD-FM-TRAINMASTER-WILLIAMS_W0QQitemZ140146817170QQihZ004QQcategoryZ38280QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 

 

I found the following statement:

MADE IN THE SAME FACTORY AS LIONEL.

True or False ????

[Anonymous]

True.   According to Williams their trains are "manufactured over seas by the same company that produces lionel trains"

[Jumijo]

Buckeye, are you talking 1950's Maine Central green or 2007 Pan Am blue?

[bfskinner]

Buckeye,

Assuming it's true (and I understand that it is) the obvious next question is "Is it good, bad, or of no particular significance?"

[chuck]

Sanda Kan makes O Gauge/Scale trains for Lionel, Williams, Atlas, (they did make them for K-Line before they went in the tank).  They may also make the weaver diesel units but I don't know that one way or another.

There realy isn't much significance to this as the loco's are not the same even though they may originate in the same factory.

[bfskinner]

Chuck,

You are correct. The one issue it confirms for me is that Sanda Kan can make a quality product if someone designs it correctly and insists on good quality control. Evidently Williams does exactly that.

[csxt30]

Chuck,

You are correct. The one issue it confirms for me is that Sanda Kan can make a quality product if someone designs it correctly and insists on good quality control. Evidently Williams does exactly that.

I'm hoping Atlas isists on quality too !! Awaiting the new Atlas steamer & hope it doesn't have to be sent back for repairs !! 

Thanks, John

[chuck]

Atlas tends to have products that are more accurate with respect to the prototype and their products are generally more detailed.  This sometimes comes with the added expense of increased fragility and occasional size issues (aka the shell is almost too narrow to accomodate an electronics package) and always comes with the expensive of additional costs from shorter production runs to make the items "accurate".

[Blueberryhill RR]

On this ebay web page,

http://cgi.ebay.com/WABASH-BLUE-BIRD-FM-TRAINMASTER-WILLIAMS_W0QQitemZ140146817170QQihZ004QQcategoryZ38280QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 

 

I found the following statement:

MADE IN THE SAME FACTORY AS LIONEL.

True or False ????

That is probably true. I know that Williams maintains it's

own quality control. Also, Williams is offering to it's Platinum Clubmembers a Wabash Trainmaster. NEW, for $xxxxxx My MISTAKE ....It is $183. Sorry. Marty at Ma & Pa Junction can sometimes beat the Club price.

[alexweiihman]

I wouldnt be surprised!

 

Alex

[Buckeye Riveter]

On this ebay web page,

http://cgi.ebay.com/WABASH-BLUE-BIRD-FM-TRAINMASTER-WILLIAMS_W0QQitemZ140146817170QQihZ004QQcategoryZ38280QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 

 

I found the following statement:

MADE IN THE SAME FACTORY AS LIONEL.

True or False ????

That is probably true. I know that Williams maintains it's

own quality control. Also, Williams is offering to it's Platinum Clubmembers a Wabash Trainmaster. NEW, for $137.00.

When does the offer for Platinum members expire?  And which Wabash paint scheme are they offering?  Since the name of my layout is the Baltimore, Ohio and Wabash, it could use a Wabash engine.

[Blueberryhill RR]

 

 

I found the following statement:

MADE IN THE SAME FACTORY AS LIONEL.

True or False ????

That is probably true. I know that Williams maintains it's

own quality control. Also, Williams is offering to it's Platinum Clubmembers a Wabash Trainmaster. NEW, for $137.00.

When does the offer for Platinum members expire?  And which Wabash paint scheme are they offering?  Since the name of my layout is the Baltimore, Ohio and Wabash, it could use a Wabash engine.

Buckeye...My Mistake....It is $183.00 new. Also, it is the same paint scheme as on the one listed on e-bay.

[phillyreading]

If it is true that Sanda Kan made stuff for K-Line what ever happened to the K-Line inventory that was supposed to be there when K-Line went under?   Lionel is listing the K-Line stuff in catalogs but is not shipping any K-Line stuff until at September or later, case in point is the K-Line Super Streets, unless some supplier bought up the K-Line Super Streets it might be possible that K-Line never made more than a few pieces in a 1000 unit run, mainly the straight track, NO curves seen as yet.

Another thing not related to trains is that Toyota makes the Lexus and the Scion models, just like Volks Wagon makes Audis and Porches and now owns Rolls Royce.

Lee F.

[chuck]

I'm not sure how much "inventory" was in the pipeline short of the K-Line club stuff that Lionel was going to pick up.  K-Line owed money to Sanda Kan but I don't know how much product SK was holding onto for K-Line in leiu of payment.  SK held onto the tooling (as primary creditor) and Lionel can request items be produced using this tooling (per their agreement with SK).

[Buckeye Riveter]

 

 

I found the following statement:

MADE IN THE SAME FACTORY AS LIONEL.

True or False ????

That is probably true. I know that Williams maintains it's

own quality control. Also, Williams is offering to it's Platinum Clubmembers a Wabash Trainmaster. NEW, for $137.00.

When does the offer for Platinum members expire?  And which Wabash paint scheme are they offering?  Since the name of my layout is the Baltimore, Ohio and Wabash, it could use a Wabash engine.

Buckeye...My Mistake....It is $183.00 new. Also, it is the same paint scheme as on the one listed on e-bay.

Chuck, I was getting the check book out with the $137.00 price, because Marty, who is usually very low, was at $150. http://www.shop.mapajunction.com/product.sc?categoryId=54&productId=538 

 

[Blueberryhill RR]

 

 

I found the following statement:

MADE IN THE SAME FACTORY AS LIONEL.

True or False ????

That is probably true. I know that Williams maintains it's

own quality control. Also, Williams is offering to it's Platinum Clubmembers a Wabash Trainmaster. NEW, for $137.00.

When does the offer for Platinum members expire?  And which Wabash paint scheme are they offering?  Since the name of my layout is the Baltimore, Ohio and Wabash, it could use a Wabash engine.

Buckeye...My Mistake....It is $183.00 new. Also, it is the same paint scheme as on the one listed on e-bay.

Chuck, I was getting the check book out with the $137.00 price, because Marty, who is usually very low, was at $150. http://www.shop.mapajunction.com/product.sc?categoryId=54&productId=538 

 

I am truly sorry, Buckeye. Tell you what...... Seeing as you are still under the bridge, I will buy you the Williams Wabash Trainmaster for Christmas. How is that ??

[Buckeye Riveter]

 

 

I found the following statement:

MADE IN THE SAME FACTORY AS LIONEL.

True or False ????

That is probably true. I know that Williams maintains it's

own quality control. Also, Williams is offering to it's Platinum Clubmembers a Wabash Trainmaster. NEW, for $137.00.

When does the offer for Platinum members expire?  And which Wabash paint scheme are they offering?  Since the name of my layout is the Baltimore, Ohio and Wabash, it could use a Wabash engine.

Buckeye...My Mistake....It is $183.00 new. Also, it is the same paint scheme as on the one listed on e-bay.

Chuck, I was getting the check book out with the $137.00 price, because Marty, who is usually very low, was at $150. http://www.shop.mapajunction.com/product.sc?categoryId=54&productId=538 

 

I am truly sorry, Buckeye. Tell you what...... Seeing as you are still under the bridge, I will buy you the Williams Wabash Trainmaster for Christmas. How is that ??

Unfortunately, I don't have room in the shopping cart for a Trainmaster.  They are huge, and I would need to get rid of my second pair of un-matched shoes.

[Anonymous]

Long story short, it is a beautifull engine that runs well. I haveone myself and it is one of my favorites, love that Wabash livery.

[Blueberryhill RR]

Buckeye.....Sneak out from under the bridge and swipe a bigger one from your local supermarket. Again.

[rtraincollector]

On this ebay web page,

http://cgi.ebay.com/WABASH-BLUE-BIRD-FM-TRAINMASTER-WILLIAMS_W0QQitemZ140146817170QQihZ004QQcategoryZ38280QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 

 

I found the following statement:

MADE IN THE SAME FACTORY AS LIONEL.

True or False ????

That is probably true. I know that Williams maintains it's

own quality control. Also, Williams is offering to it's Platinum Clubmembers a Wabash Trainmaster. NEW, for $xxxxxx My MISTAKE ....It is $183. Sorry. Marty at Ma & Pa Junction can sometimes beat the Club price.

 

This is true about ma&pa because they probally go get there orders being that close as they save shipping fee. and dealers get the product for 50% off of retail list price so if it sells for $200.00 and our club price is $160. (20% off) there price is $100.00 so they still see $50.00 profit if they sell it to you for $150.00. I know this as freind when I lived in VA told me so. and use to sell to me for cost plus shipping plus 15%. just wish I could aford more when I was there.