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Who makes a UP Challenger #3985

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Who makes a UP Challenger #3985
Posted by gvdobler on Saturday, August 11, 2007 7:55 PM

Anyone know of a good one? 

I want the excursion #3985 UP but can't find it in O.  I thought there was a video on MTH's website of the 4-6-6-4 but can't find it.  I would have to change paint.  No thanks.

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Posted by fifedog on Sunday, August 12, 2007 9:40 AM

MTH produced UP #3985 (black paint scheme) in 2005 in it's Premier Line.  A home equity loan will probably help...

Both MTH and LIONEL have produced UP Challengers over the past decade.

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Posted by spankybird on Sunday, August 12, 2007 3:38 PM

Here are pics of the RailKing version

 

 

 

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Posted by challenger3980 on Sunday, August 12, 2007 7:55 PM

  

   Lionel produced three different paint schemes in Union Pacific, for their LionMaster series Challengers. The 6-28077 is the Black/Graphite version, and closest to what you are looking for. The only down-side to this one (besides the $799.99 MSRP) is that the Road# is 3983 not 3985. The 6-38023 is the two tone grey with yellow lettering and striping. The 6-38093 is the two-tone grey/ silver lettering and striping, Road# 3980 ( My Favorite) I have both the 3980 (6-38093) and the 3983 (6-28077) and they are very nice running and looking Locomotives. The detailing is very nice, if not quite the level of the Std -O, or JLC series Locomotives, but also only about half the price. The LionMaster series Locomotives will run on 0-31 curves, they have TMCC and wireless tethers. These two and the LionMaster Bigboy and LionMaster Cab-Forward are the Pride of my collection, I would recommend the LionMaster series to anyone.

    I am still pretty new to computers, and I am not sure how to post pics in the forums yet, but if you would like to see some pics of my Locomotives email me and I can send some to you through regular email.

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Posted by gvdobler on Monday, August 13, 2007 11:23 AM

Thanks for the info. 

What is the difference in high rail wheels and scale?  I know it is size, but for normal running is it a problem?  I display trains mostly, so appearance is important, but want to be able to run the train.  

I have the UP excursion train in HO with the Genesis 4-6-6-4 and Rivarossi cars.  UP has 42 different cars but usual consists about 8-9 cars for a trip. 

The MTH 3985 looks like the best since I wouldn't have to renumber. (If I can locate one) The next thing is who makes the best O passenger cars?  I will most likely have to paint and letter, since the cars have names and not just numbers. I may have to have someone do that part as I don't want them to look homemade.

Thanks again for the help. 

 

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Posted by challenger3980 on Monday, August 13, 2007 12:04 PM

 

    Hi-rail wheels are for 3 rail track, Scale wheels are for 2 rail track. Lionel did make a 3 rail challenger #3985, but I think that it was in the JLC collection, which is a very high line, their best series, and would probably be in the $1,500.00-2,000.00 price range.

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